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And from his talk page, the reviewer appears to have an itchy
finger.<br>
I added the "under construction" which should prevent him from
actual deletion.<br>
I agree that notability is important for software listings. I think a
list of notable important users would be next. <br>
Would the list of 30 colloborators in The Astropy Collaboration  in
<a href="http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/abs/2013/10/aa22068-13/aa22068-13.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/abs/2013/10/aa22068-13/aa22068-13.html<br>
</a>be appropriate? They are certainly users, and themselves notable in
the field.<br><br>
- Ray S<br><br>
<br>
At 10:47 AM 11/4/2013, Ries, Paul A (3265-Affiliate) wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">And unfortunately, after a mere
12 minutes of existence, the astropy wikipedia article has been nominated
for deletion by a new page patroller: <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Astropy">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Astropy</a>
<br><br>
<br><br>
For better or for worse, the key to a page surviving its first few days
on wikipedia is establishing notability.  So the key to getting the
page kept is adding references that establish notability.  <br><br>
The "official" guideline for notability:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG#General_notability_guideline">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG#General_notability_guideline</a>
<br><br>
An essay (i.e. less official, but still useful) regarding notability for
software:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(software)">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(software)</a><br><br>
I think that pretty much the best way to achieve inclusion on wiki would
be to establish that it's widely used in the astronomical
community.  The best way I can think of is if there exist course
pages from universities about using the software for astronomical
purposes.  Those should be added as references.  Without those,
though or something like them, it's likely the article will be
deleted.... basically, the sources have to be independent of the astropy
project pages and major contributors.  If you can find such sources,
they can be added to the article using
<ref>[<a href="http://www.university.edu/the/page.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.university.edu/the/page.html</a>]</ref>.... 
<br><br>
Source: experienced wiki editor with votes in over 80 deletion
discussions<br><br>
----Paul<br><br>
On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:46 AM, RayS wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">At 08:12 AM 11/4/2013, Perry
Greenfield wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Is someone out there willing to
take up the task of creating a wikipedia entry for astropy?
</blockquote><font color="#800000"><br>
Stub:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astropy" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astropy</a><br>
You really don't need to worry about editing as a main contributor; it is
only the content (and importantly, supporting links and references) that
matter. Further discussion of the entry could mainly be on the Talk Page
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Astropy&action=edit&redlink=1" eudora="autourl">
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Astropy&action=edit&redlink=1</a>
 <br><br>
>From
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction" eudora="autourl">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction</a><br>
</font><b>"Don't be afraid to edit</b> – <i>anyone</i> can edit
almost every page, and we are encouraged to
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold"><b>be
bold</a></b>! Find something that can be improved and make it better­for
example, spelling, grammar, rewriting for readability, adding content, or
removing non-constructive edits. If you wish to add new facts, please try
to provide
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing/1">
references</a> so they may be
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability">
verified</a>, or suggest them on the article's
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_talk_pages">
discussion page</a>. Changes to controversial topics and Wikipedia's main
pages should usually be discussed first.<br><br>
Remember – you can't break Wikipedia; all edits can be reversed, fixed or
improved later. Wikipedia is
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy">allowed
to be imperfect</a>. So go ahead, edit an article and help make Wikipedia
the best information source on the Internet!"<br>
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