> Take TCS, they have 50K java programmers- they can't afford to retrain them.<div><br></div><div>It is not so much the effort involved to retrain in a particular programming language as it is to change the prevelant culture. I am curious to see how they change and adapt, as I am skeptical that the cost difference advantage will sustain them for a much longer time. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lawgon@au-kbc.org" target="_blank">lawgon@au-kbc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Friday 12 June 2009 14:05:18 Mandar Gokhale wrote:<br>
> Jayanth: I've come to lament the factory like nature of IT in India. People<br>
> learn extremely minimal subset of specialized skills. I've had chaps who<br>
> can't see beyond .NET or Java very simply because these are industry<br>
> idioms. I tell them stuff about perl, python or ruby and I get back "but<br>
> those are scripting languages".<br>
><br>
><br>
> Just a slightly unrelated question here.......doesn't the industry follow<br>
> .NET and Java more than Python/Perl as well? (I've heard this said by<br>
> several people in the States as well.) So maybe a change in the industry<br>
> mindset would help..<br>
<br>
</div>there is a pecking order - generally Java programmers are at the top of the<br>
heap. They usually would not even condescend to _talk_ to a non-java<br>
programmer. If you cannot write 5000 lines of UML to generate 10000 lines of<br>
XML to generate 50000 lines of java code, you are no one.<br>
<br>
the next in the food chain are DOTNET guys - ability to click, drag and drop<br>
is essential. Ability to think is optional (at times actionable).<br>
<br>
and at the bottom of the food chain are the scripting guys - also useful to<br>
send round the corner for coffee.<br>
<br>
but the moment these guys leave industry - guess what language they choose?<br>
<br>
and why do the corporates not change? Take TCS, they have 50K java programmers<br>
- they can't afford to retrain them. So it is not a question of Java is best<br>
for enterprise (we all know python is the best), but a question of enterprise<br>
has invested too much in java programmers and cannot afford to shift from java<br>
(or dotnet as the case may be)<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
regards<br>
Kenneth Gonsalves<br>
Associate<br>
NRC-FOSS<br>
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