From wescpy at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 02:23:17 2013 From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:23:17 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] heads-up intro to Google App Engine & cloud tomorrow night Message-ID: hey all, just wanted to let you know that i'm working with david to getting an intermediate Python App Engine speaker for BayPIGgies, but for those on the mailing list who are new to App Engine, they're welcome to come to my intro talk aimed at beginners or explorers tomorrow evening given at the Google user group meeting. after that talk and playing with App Engine on your own, you should be ready for the upcoming intermediate talk. while tomorrow's event is currently fully-booked, the waitlist has started, so even if you can't be there in-person, we'll be streaming the talk live on YouTube. that link will be made available some time tomorrow before the talk, so keep your eyes glued to the main meetup pagefor that. cheers, and hope to see you tomorrow! -- wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it." +wesley chun : wescpy at gmail : @wescpy Python training & consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com "Core Python" books : http://CorePython.com Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mberry at rocket-space.com Fri Sep 20 20:49:46 2013 From: mberry at rocket-space.com (Michelle Berry) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django Message-ID: We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django *About RocketSpace | RocketU* RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups on the planet. *Job Description * We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace accelerator community, we want to hear from you! *Major job responsibilities include:* - Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp - Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and deployment - Preparing students for job interviews and product demo - Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback - Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants - Technical Requirements *The ideal candidate(s) will have: * - Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, Javascript, and JQuery - Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as Django and Rails - Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design - Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, bootstrap? (the list is way too long) - Familiarity with the typical web server setup *General Requirements * - Experience in training and mentoring web development to students/colleagues/team members - 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience preferred - Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates - Meticulous attention to detail - Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace - A great sense of humor is always appreciated - Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com. *Michelle Berry | RocketSpace* Senior Vice President, RocketU mberry at rocket-space.com www.r ocketu.com (M) 415.722.6816 225 Bush Street, 12th Floor San Francisco, CA 94104 www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cuba at well.com Fri Sep 20 21:32:37 2013 From: cuba at well.com (Larry Cuba) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:32:37 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. What's an "unfair" advantage? Sounds like something unethical or illegal. THAT's your selling point?! who do you attract with that? have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. It's available to all equally. Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. ---larry cuba At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. > >Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django > >About RocketSpace | RocketU > >RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > >RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups on the planet. > >Job Description >We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. >The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace accelerator community, we want to hear from you! > >Major job responsibilities include: > > * Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp > * Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and deployment > * Preparing students for job interviews and product demo > * Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback > * Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants > * Technical Requirements > >The ideal candidate(s) will have: > > * Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, Javascript, and JQuery > * Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as Django and Rails > * Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design > * Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, bootstrap (the list is way too long) > * Familiarity with the typical web server setup >General Requirements > * Experience in training and mentoring web development to students/colleagues/team members > * 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience preferred > * Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates > * Meticulous attention to detail > * Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace > * A great sense of humor is always appreciated > * Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office >If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com. > > >Michelle Berry | RocketSpace >Senior Vice President, RocketU > >mberry at rocket-space.com >www.rocketu.com >(M) 415.722.6816 >225 Bush Street, 12th Floor >San Francisco, CA 94104 >www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ > >[] >[] > >_______________________________________________ >Baypiggies mailing list >Baypiggies at python.org >To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That particular quote you're picking out is simply a reference to the introductions that Rocket Space, the parent organization to RocketU, helps make between entrepreneurs, investors, mentors and talented technical people looking to work in start ups. thank you for the explanation. not to cast aspersions on Michelle or RocketU in particular. I'm sure it's the company's boilerplate pitch. But whoever it was who wrote that sentence and everyone who approved its use are missing something. (and also apparently a lot of those who read it). >I assure you nothing unethical or illegal was intended or implied. of course, i can not judge intentions, but the implication of the use of the word "unfair advantage" is absolutely clear. they are looking for people who value personal gain over ethics (i.e. "fairness"). it's not that i'm shocked by this. This is clearly the tenor of the times. but i'm surprised that anyone would be so blatant about it as to put it into their pitch to attract a certain kind of personality and that everyone would find that acceptable. They are either a) deliberately appealing to those who find shady dealings attractive, or b) completely oblivious to the concept of fair play and ethical behavior and don't even notice what is implied by their own words. Neither case is commendable. I just thought it might be useful to shine a light on this phrase precisely because it appears to be so innocuous. If we've gotten to the point where "unfair advantage" is a perfectly acceptable policy---a *public* policy that doesn't even require discretion or shame---then we need to be aware of that. I'm sure that i am *far* from being up on the current standards and practices, but i was under the impression that cheating is still something that is only discussed in private internal emails, hidden from the world, and denied, if revealed. If cheating now entitles a company to bragging rights, well, then that's news to me. ---Larry C. >On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Cuba <cuba at well.com> wrote: > > >At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: > >>Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > > >What's an "unfair" advantage? >Sounds like something unethical or illegal. >THAT's your selling point?! >who do you attract with that? >have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? > >There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. >It's available to all equally. > >Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. > >---larry cuba > > > > > >At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >>We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. >> >>Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django >> >>About RocketSpace | RocketU >> >>RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. >> >>RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups on the planet. >> >>Job Description >>We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. >>The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace accelerator community, we want to hear from you! >> >>Major job responsibilities include: >> >>Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp >>Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and deployment >>Preparing students for job interviews and product demo >>Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback >>Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants >>Technical Requirements >>The ideal candidate(s) will have: >> >>Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, Javascript, and JQuery >>Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as Django and Rails >>Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design >>Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, bootstrap (the list is way too long) >>Familiarity with the typical web server setup >>General Requirements >>Experience in training and mentoring web development to students/colleagues/team members >>5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience preferred >>Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates >>Meticulous attention to detail >>Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace >>A great sense of humor is always appreciated >>Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office >>If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com . >> >> >>Michelle Berry | RocketSpace >>Senior Vice President, RocketU >> >>mberry at rocket-space.com >>www.rocketu.com >>(M) 415.722.6816 >>225 Bush Street, 12th Floor >>San Francisco, CA 94104 >>www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Baypiggies mailing list >>Baypiggies at python.org >>To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >_______________________________________________ >Baypiggies mailing list >Baypiggies at python.org >To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > >Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472b49.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; x-mac-creator=4A565752 >Content-ID: <.1> >X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.2 > >Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472afb.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; x-mac-creator=4A565752 >Content-ID: <.0> >X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.1 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some people might say that Python has an unfair advantage against Perl. Python was designed with hindsight of how scripting and object-oriented design work; much of the sweat in pioneering this area was done by Perl programmers, and yet Python reaps the rewards. However, I don't know any Perl programmers who would hold Pythonistas in disdain for that reason. However, if you want to talk about amassing patents to slaughter your competition by making legal defense impractical, that's a different discussion... which I won't start. Disclaimer: I am lowly coder. I have no successful track record in business or law. So apply as much salt as you want to my comments. [Then again, perhaps I don't have those successes because I don't know how to take unfair advantage of the competition.] --Rick Kwan On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: > At 01:44 PM 9/20/2013, David Lawrence wrote: > > Hi Larry, > > I've worked with Michelle and RocketU. That particular quote you're picking > out is simply a reference to the introductions that Rocket Space, the parent > organization to RocketU, helps make between entrepreneurs, investors, > mentors and talented technical people looking to work in start ups. > > > thank you for the explanation. > not to cast aspersions on Michelle or RocketU in particular. > I'm sure it's the company's boilerplate pitch. > But whoever it was who wrote that sentence and everyone > who approved its use are missing something. > (and also apparently a lot of those who read it). > > I assure you nothing unethical or illegal was intended or implied. > > > of course, i can not judge intentions, but the implication > of the use of the word "unfair advantage" is absolutely clear. > they are looking for people who value personal gain > over ethics (i.e. "fairness"). > > it's not that i'm shocked by this. > This is clearly the tenor of the times. > but i'm surprised that anyone would be so blatant > about it as to put it into their pitch to attract a > certain kind of personality and that everyone would > find that acceptable. > > They are either > a) deliberately appealing to those who find shady dealings attractive, or > b) completely oblivious to the concept of fair play and ethical behavior and > don't even notice what is implied by their own words. > > Neither case is commendable. > > I just thought it might be useful to shine a light on this > phrase precisely because it appears to be so innocuous. > If we've gotten to the point where "unfair advantage" is a > perfectly acceptable policy---a *public* policy that doesn't > even require discretion or shame---then we need to be aware of that. > > I'm sure that i am *far* from being up on the current standards > and practices, but i was under the impression that cheating > is still something that is only discussed in private internal emails, > hidden from the world, and denied, if revealed. > > If cheating now entitles a company to bragging rights, well, then > that's news to me. > > ---Larry C. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: > > > At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: > > Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > > > > What's an "unfair" advantage? > Sounds like something unethical or illegal. > THAT's your selling point?! > who do you attract with that? > have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? > > There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. > It's available to all equally. > > Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. > > ---larry cuba > > > > > > At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: > > We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help > us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. > > Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; > HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django > > About RocketSpace | RocketU > > RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San > Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who > want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > > RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the > cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s > modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver > our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the > RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups > on the planet. > > Job Description > We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical > faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to > transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks > and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team > will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. > The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as > aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, > you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from > rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace > accelerator community, we want to hear from you! > > Major job responsibilities include: > > Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp > Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and > deployment > Preparing students for job interviews and product demo > Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback > Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants > Technical Requirements > The ideal candidate(s) will have: > > Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, > Javascript, and JQuery > Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as > Django and Rails > Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design > Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, > bootstrap? (the list is way too long) > Familiarity with the typical web server setup > General Requirements > Experience in training and mentoring web development to > students/colleagues/team members > 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience > preferred > Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling > effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates > Meticulous attention to detail > Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace > A great sense of humor is always appreciated > Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office > If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, > please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com . > > > Michelle Berry | RocketSpace > Senior Vice President, RocketU > > mberry at rocket-space.com > www.rocketu.com > (M) 415.722.6816 > 225 Bush Street, 12th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94104 > www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472b49.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; > x-mac-creator=4A565752 > Content-ID: <.1> > X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.2 > > Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472afb.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; > x-mac-creator=4A565752 > Content-ID: <.0> > X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.1 > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From guido at python.org Sat Sep 21 01:21:07 2013 From: guido at python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:21:07 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920144025.1018bc98@well.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Rick Kwan wrote: > "unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising > the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth > their effort to compete against you. > Nevertheless I agree with Larry (hi Larry!) that its widespread use hints at the unethical side of business and I wouldn't want to be involved in a business that uses such terminology. The whole idea of seeing "unfairness" as something worth pursuing bothers me. -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.berthelot at gmail.com Sat Sep 21 01:32:53 2013 From: david.berthelot at gmail.com (David Berthelot) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:32:53 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920144025.1018bc98@well.com> Message-ID: Well I also had the initial reaction of being concerned when I saw unfair and just skipped the original email. I agree that unfair sounds wrong to my ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). To put it in a trendy way: I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could be a "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", which would be a "game-changer". Now that sounds "sassy" :) On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Rick Kwan wrote: > >> "unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising >> the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth >> their effort to compete against you. >> > > Nevertheless I agree with Larry (hi Larry!) that its widespread use hints > at the unethical side of business and I wouldn't want to be involved in a > business that uses such terminology. The whole idea of seeing "unfairness" > as something worth pursuing bothers me. > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I agree that unfair sounds wrong to my > ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like > disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). > > To put it in a trendy way: > I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became > "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could be a > "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", > which would be a "game-changer". > > Now that sounds "sassy" :) > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Rick Kwan wrote: >> >>> "unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising >>> the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth >>> their effort to compete against you. >>> >> >> Nevertheless I agree with Larry (hi Larry!) that its widespread use hints >> at the unethical side of business and I wouldn't want to be involved in a >> business that uses such terminology. The whole idea of seeing "unfairness" >> as something worth pursuing bothers me. >> >> -- >> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > > -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cuba at well.com Sat Sep 21 01:35:51 2013 From: cuba at well.com (Larry Cuba) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:35:51 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920144025.1018bc98@well.com> Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920162236.05ff7d28@well.com> At 04:17 PM 9/20/2013, Rick Kwan wrote: >"unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising >the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth >their effort to compete against you. If you "google" or "bing" it, >you'll find there is even a book by that name, and the term is in very >widespread use. so the distinction between 'unfair' and 'fair' really isn't being made any more. wow. thanks for the update. >Someone could certainly use bad ethics to create an "unfair >advantage", but I would think it has more to do with: >* smartly and efficiently executing your business. >* employing tools and knowledge that the competition is ignoring or >too lazy to master. sorry. don't see what's "unfair" about that. being smarter and more clever than the competition is not unfair. >Some people might say that Python has an unfair advantage against >Perl. Python was designed with hindsight of how scripting and >object-oriented design work; much of the sweat in pioneering this area >was done by Perl programmers, and yet Python reaps the rewards. >... whether true or not, it sounds like a fair advantage to me. >However, if you want to talk about amassing patents to slaughter your >competition by making legal defense impractical, that's a different >discussion... which I won't start. where to draw the line between ethical and unethical business practices should be discussed somewhere, if not here. (and i'm sure it is). Blurring the distinction between the words "fair" and "unfair" is counterproductive to making that line visible. >Disclaimer: I am lowly coder. I have no successful track record in >business or law. So apply as much salt as you want to my comments. >[Then again, perhaps I don't have those successes because I don't know >how to take unfair advantage of the competition.] don't "know how" or just won't because you know it's wrong? Larry C. >On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: >> At 01:44 PM 9/20/2013, David Lawrence wrote: >> >> Hi Larry, >> >> I've worked with Michelle and RocketU. That particular quote you're picking >> out is simply a reference to the introductions that Rocket Space, the parent >> organization to RocketU, helps make between entrepreneurs, investors, >> mentors and talented technical people looking to work in start ups. >> >> >> thank you for the explanation. >> not to cast aspersions on Michelle or RocketU in particular. >> I'm sure it's the company's boilerplate pitch. >> But whoever it was who wrote that sentence and everyone >> who approved its use are missing something. >> (and also apparently a lot of those who read it). >> >> I assure you nothing unethical or illegal was intended or implied. >> >> >> of course, i can not judge intentions, but the implication >> of the use of the word "unfair advantage" is absolutely clear. >> they are looking for people who value personal gain >> over ethics (i.e. "fairness"). >> >> it's not that i'm shocked by this. >> This is clearly the tenor of the times. >> but i'm surprised that anyone would be so blatant >> about it as to put it into their pitch to attract a >> certain kind of personality and that everyone would >> find that acceptable. >> >> They are either >> a) deliberately appealing to those who find shady dealings attractive, or >> b) completely oblivious to the concept of fair play and ethical behavior and >> don't even notice what is implied by their own words. >> >> Neither case is commendable. >> >> I just thought it might be useful to shine a light on this >> phrase precisely because it appears to be so innocuous. >> If we've gotten to the point where "unfair advantage" is a >> perfectly acceptable policy---a *public* policy that doesn't >> even require discretion or shame---then we need to be aware of that. >> >> I'm sure that i am *far* from being up on the current standards >> and practices, but i was under the impression that cheating >> is still something that is only discussed in private internal emails, >> hidden from the world, and denied, if revealed. >> >> If cheating now entitles a company to bragging rights, well, then >> that's news to me. >> >> ---Larry C. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: >> >> >> At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >> >> Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. >> >> >> >> What's an "unfair" advantage? >> Sounds like something unethical or illegal. >> THAT's your selling point?! >> who do you attract with that? >> have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? >> >> There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. >> It's available to all equally. >> >> Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. >> >> ---larry cuba >> >> >> >> >> >> At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >> >> We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help >> us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. >> >> Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; >> HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django >> >> About RocketSpace | RocketU >> >> RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San >> Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who >> want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. >> >> RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the >> cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s >> modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver >> our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the >> RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups >> on the planet. >> >> Job Description >> We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical >> faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to >> transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks >> and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team >> will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. >> The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as >> aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, >> you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from >> rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace >> accelerator community, we want to hear from you! >> >> Major job responsibilities include: >> >> Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp >> Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and >> deployment >> Preparing students for job interviews and product demo >> Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback >> Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants >> Technical Requirements >> The ideal candidate(s) will have: >> >> Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, >> Javascript, and JQuery >> Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as >> Django and Rails >> Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design >> Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, >> bootstrap (the list is way too long) >> Familiarity with the typical web server setup >> General Requirements >> Experience in training and mentoring web development to >> students/colleagues/team members >> 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience >> preferred >> Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling >> effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates >> Meticulous attention to detail >> Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace >> A great sense of humor is always appreciated >> Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office >> If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, >> please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com . >> >> >> Michelle Berry | RocketSpace >> Senior Vice President, RocketU >> >> mberry at rocket-space.com >> www.rocketu.com >> (M) 415.722.6816 >> 225 Bush Street, 12th Floor >> San Francisco, CA 94104 >> www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> >> >> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472b49.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; >> x-mac-creator=4A565752 >> Content-ID: <.1> >> X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.2 >> >> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472afb.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; >> x-mac-creator=4A565752 >> Content-ID: <.0> >> X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From cuba at well.com Sat Sep 21 02:01:43 2013 From: cuba at well.com (Larry Cuba) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:01:43 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920144025.1018bc98@well.com> Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920163800.10f3a348@well.com> At 04:21 PM 9/20/2013, Guido van Rossum wrote: >On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Rick Kwan <kenobi at gmail.com> wrote: >"unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising >the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth >their effort to compete against you. > > >Nevertheless I agree with Larry (hi Larry!) (Hi Guido!) > that its widespread use hints at the unethical side of business and I wouldn't want to be involved in a business that uses such terminology. The whole idea of seeing "unfairness" as something worth pursuing bothers me. agreed. the idea that "unfair advantage" can be just another (desirable) buzz word like "disruptive" is bothersome. the idea that it's ok because it's just 'marketing speak' indicates how oblivious we've become to the power of words. A friend just sent me this which supports Rick's point: >"New business ventures often face the challenge of how to be truly differentiated. In his book Running Lean, Ash Maurya offers a new take on differentiation by introducing the concept of unfair advantage. He quotes Jason Cohen: >A real unfair advantage is one that cannot easily be copied or bought." no it isn't. a real unfair advantage is cheating the competition. if it's not cheating, then it's fair. it's ease of copy-ability don't enter into it. Co-opting existing words and redefining them in order to differentiate your book from the others can be dangerous when ethics are involved. ---Larry C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenobi at gmail.com Sat Sep 21 02:18:03 2013 From: kenobi at gmail.com (Rick Kwan) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:18:03 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920162236.05ff7d28@well.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920144025.1018bc98@well.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130920162236.05ff7d28@well.com> Message-ID: I first heard this term in the late 1980s. It was attributed to the size of the advantage that IBM had over its competition. We were encouraged to emulate IBM in creating such an advantage, but none of this was intended to be unethical or illegal... at least not at my pay grade. Our focus was on mastering technology to a level that none of the local competition had attempted. (In those days, I supported chip design.) As for this: >>Disclaimer: I am lowly coder. I have no successful track record in >>business or law. So apply as much salt as you want to my comments. >>[Then again, perhaps I don't have those successes because I don't know >>how to take unfair advantage of the competition.] > >don't "know how" or just won't because you know it's wrong? You have a good point. If the know-how is part of unethical stuff, then I don't know how because I don't explore those avenues. If someone suggests such things to me, it tends to go in one ear and out the other. That was just reflex. Nowadays, I'm getting to the point of wanting or needing to correct people in the error of their ways; the trick is how to do that without be judgmental... another thing I haven't mastered. --Rick On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: > At 04:17 PM 9/20/2013, Rick Kwan wrote: >>"unfair advantage" is general business or marketing speak for raising >>the bar against the competition so high so that it is almost not worth >>their effort to compete against you. If you "google" or "bing" it, >>you'll find there is even a book by that name, and the term is in very >>widespread use. > > so the distinction between 'unfair' and 'fair' really isn't being made any more. > wow. > thanks for the update. > > >>Someone could certainly use bad ethics to create an "unfair >>advantage", but I would think it has more to do with: >>* smartly and efficiently executing your business. >>* employing tools and knowledge that the competition is ignoring or >>too lazy to master. > > sorry. > don't see what's "unfair" about that. > being smarter and more clever than the competition is not unfair. > > >>Some people might say that Python has an unfair advantage against >>Perl. Python was designed with hindsight of how scripting and >>object-oriented design work; much of the sweat in pioneering this area >>was done by Perl programmers, and yet Python reaps the rewards. >>... > > whether true or not, it sounds like a fair advantage to me. > >>However, if you want to talk about amassing patents to slaughter your >>competition by making legal defense impractical, that's a different >>discussion... which I won't start. > > where to draw the line between ethical and unethical business > practices should be discussed somewhere, if not here. > (and i'm sure it is). > Blurring the distinction between the words "fair" and "unfair" > is counterproductive to making that line visible. > > >>Disclaimer: I am lowly coder. I have no successful track record in >>business or law. So apply as much salt as you want to my comments. >>[Then again, perhaps I don't have those successes because I don't know >>how to take unfair advantage of the competition.] > > don't "know how" or just won't because you know it's wrong? > > Larry C. > > > > >>On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: >>> At 01:44 PM 9/20/2013, David Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> Hi Larry, >>> >>> I've worked with Michelle and RocketU. That particular quote you're picking >>> out is simply a reference to the introductions that Rocket Space, the parent >>> organization to RocketU, helps make between entrepreneurs, investors, >>> mentors and talented technical people looking to work in start ups. >>> >>> >>> thank you for the explanation. >>> not to cast aspersions on Michelle or RocketU in particular. >>> I'm sure it's the company's boilerplate pitch. >>> But whoever it was who wrote that sentence and everyone >>> who approved its use are missing something. >>> (and also apparently a lot of those who read it). >>> >>> I assure you nothing unethical or illegal was intended or implied. >>> >>> >>> of course, i can not judge intentions, but the implication >>> of the use of the word "unfair advantage" is absolutely clear. >>> they are looking for people who value personal gain >>> over ethics (i.e. "fairness"). >>> >>> it's not that i'm shocked by this. >>> This is clearly the tenor of the times. >>> but i'm surprised that anyone would be so blatant >>> about it as to put it into their pitch to attract a >>> certain kind of personality and that everyone would >>> find that acceptable. >>> >>> They are either >>> a) deliberately appealing to those who find shady dealings attractive, or >>> b) completely oblivious to the concept of fair play and ethical behavior and >>> don't even notice what is implied by their own words. >>> >>> Neither case is commendable. >>> >>> I just thought it might be useful to shine a light on this >>> phrase precisely because it appears to be so innocuous. >>> If we've gotten to the point where "unfair advantage" is a >>> perfectly acceptable policy---a *public* policy that doesn't >>> even require discretion or shame---then we need to be aware of that. >>> >>> I'm sure that i am *far* from being up on the current standards >>> and practices, but i was under the impression that cheating >>> is still something that is only discussed in private internal emails, >>> hidden from the world, and denied, if revealed. >>> >>> If cheating now entitles a company to bragging rights, well, then >>> that's news to me. >>> >>> ---Larry C. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: >>> >>> >>> At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >>> >>> Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. >>> >>> >>> >>> What's an "unfair" advantage? >>> Sounds like something unethical or illegal. >>> THAT's your selling point?! >>> who do you attract with that? >>> have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? >>> >>> There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. >>> It's available to all equally. >>> >>> Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. >>> >>> ---larry cuba >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: >>> >>> We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to help >>> us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. >>> >>> Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; >>> HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django >>> >>> About RocketSpace | RocketU >>> >>> RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San >>> Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies who >>> want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. >>> >>> RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn the >>> cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for today?s >>> modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we deliver >>> our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is embedded on the >>> RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the hottest tech startups >>> on the planet. >>> >>> Job Description >>> We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical >>> faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to >>> transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks >>> and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team >>> will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. >>> The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as >>> aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, >>> you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from >>> rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace >>> accelerator community, we want to hear from you! >>> >>> Major job responsibilities include: >>> >>> Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp >>> Guiding students on their individual product design, development, debug and >>> deployment >>> Preparing students for job interviews and product demo >>> Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback >>> Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp applicants >>> Technical Requirements >>> The ideal candidate(s) will have: >>> >>> Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, >>> Javascript, and JQuery >>> Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks such as >>> Django and Rails >>> Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database design >>> Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, Angular, less, >>> bootstrap? (the list is way too long) >>> Familiarity with the typical web server setup >>> General Requirements >>> Experience in training and mentoring web development to >>> students/colleagues/team members >>> 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial experience >>> preferred >>> Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, enabling >>> effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates >>> Meticulous attention to detail >>> Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace >>> A great sense of humor is always appreciated >>> Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office >>> If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, >>> please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com . >>> >>> >>> Michelle Berry | RocketSpace >>> Senior Vice President, RocketU >>> >>> mberry at rocket-space.com >>> www.rocketu.com >>> (M) 415.722.6816 >>> 225 Bush Street, 12th Floor >>> San Francisco, CA 94104 >>> www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >>> >>> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472b49.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; >>> x-mac-creator=4A565752 >>> Content-ID: <.1> >>> X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.2 >>> >>> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="10472afb.jpg"; x-mac-type=4A504547; >>> x-mac-creator=4A565752 >>> Content-ID: <.0> >>> X-Attachment-Id: b2fe6125ebf83cb0_0.0.1 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From david at bitcasa.com Fri Sep 20 22:44:43 2013 From: david at bitcasa.com (David Lawrence) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:44:43 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130920121355.10259000@well.com> Message-ID: Hi Larry, I've worked with Michelle and RocketU. That particular quote you're picking out is simply a reference to the introductions that Rocket Space, the parent organization to RocketU, helps make between entrepreneurs, investors, mentors and talented technical people looking to work in start ups. I assure you nothing unethical or illegal was intended or implied. Regards, David Lawrence On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Larry Cuba wrote: > > > At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: > > Our members ... want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > > > > What's an "unfair" advantage? > Sounds like something unethical or illegal. > THAT's your selling point?! > who do you attract with that? > have you ever heard of "ill-gotten gains"? > > There's nothing unfair about knowing and using Python. > It's available to all equally. > > Please excuse me for nit picking over a trivial thing like scruples. > > ---larry cuba > > > > > > At 11:49 AM 9/20/2013, you wrote: > > We are actively looking for great Python teachers, mentors and TA's to > help us deliver training to aspiring Python developers. > > Role: Contract Faculty At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; > HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, Django > > *About RocketSpace | RocketU* > > RocketSpace is an open innovation campus located in the heart of San > Francisco. Our members are disruptive, fast-growing technology companies > who want to gain an unfair advantage in the market. > > RocketU helps top-performing entrepreneurs and tech professionals learn > the cutting-edge coding languages and techniques that are necessary for > today?s modern applications. We?re more than just another dev bootcamp; we > deliver our courses with your whole tech career in mind. RocketU is > embedded on the RocketSpace campus, giving you access to some of the > hottest tech startups on the planet. > > *Job Description * > We are looking for a team of dynamic, talented and enthusiastic technical > faculty, mentors and TA?s to train students who are highly motivated to > transition into the tech industry. Each Developer Bootcamp lasts 10 weeks > and start every quarter. During the bootcamp, the faculty and mentor team > will eat and breathe with the students Monday thru Friday, 8AM - 6PM. > The RocketU logo, Develop Yourself, is targeted at both faculty as well as > aspiring developers because we fundamentally believe that when you teach, > you learn. If you love technology and learning and would benefit from > rewarding interaction with aspiring developers and the broader RocketSpace > accelerator community, we want to hear from you! > > *Major job responsibilities include:* > > > - Leading lectures and labs on all technical aspects in the bootcamp > - Guiding students on their individual product design, development, > debug and deployment > - Preparing students for job interviews and product demo > - Assessing quality of work and providing constructive feedback > - Conducting technical Interviews of prospective RocketU bootcamp > applicants > - Technical Requirements > > > *The ideal candidate(s) will have: * > > > - Expertise in working with front end technology such as HTML, CSS, > Javascript, and JQuery > - Proficiency with Python and/or Ruby and experience with frameworks > such as Django and Rails > - Hands-on experience with Web application architecture and database > design > - Exposure to ?what?s hot? in technology like NodeJS, Backbone, > Angular, less, bootstrap? (the list is way too long) > - Familiarity with the typical web server setup > > *General Requirements * > > - Experience in training and mentoring web development to > students/colleagues/team members > - 5+ years professional Web development experience, with managerial > experience preferred > - Strong presentation, communication, and collaboration skills, > enabling effective interaction and knowledge transfer to teammates > - Meticulous attention to detail > - Positive attitude and professionalism in the workplace > - A great sense of humor is always appreciated > - Ability to work out of our San Francisco based office > > If you are interested in learning more about potentially joining our team, > please contact Michelle Berry at rocketu at rocket-space.com . > > > *Michelle Berry | RocketSpace > *Senior Vice President, RocketU > > mberry at rocket-space.com > www.rocketu.com > (M) 415.722.6816 > 225 Bush Street, 12th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94104 > www.linkedin.com/pub/michelle-berry/0/463/609/ > > [image: []] [image: []] > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I agree that unfair sounds wrong to my > ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like > disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). > > To put it in a trendy way: > I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became > "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could be a > "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", > which would be a "game-changer". > > Now that sounds "sassy" :) Naw, you've just jumped the shark. -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book." --Cicero From elise.scher01 at gmail.com Sun Sep 22 16:48:00 2013 From: elise.scher01 at gmail.com (Elise Scher) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:48:00 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: App AcademySan Francisco lost $1250 that I sent them thru PayPal for the tuition of my son, Edward Swernofsky. They want another $1250. Is this a scam? What can I do about this, please? On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:00 AM, wrote: > Send Baypiggies mailing list submissions to > baypiggies at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > baypiggies-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > baypiggies-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Baypiggies digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket > Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, > Django (Aahz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:56:30 -0700 > From: Aahz > To: Baypiggies > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors > At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, > Python, Django > Message-ID: <20130921175630.GA3890 at panix.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, David Berthelot wrote: > > > > Well I also had the initial reaction of being concerned when I saw unfair > > and just skipped the original email. I agree that unfair sounds wrong to > my > > ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like > > disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). > > > > To put it in a trendy way: > > I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became > > "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could > be a > > "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", > > which would be a "game-changer". > > > > Now that sounds "sassy" :) > > Naw, you've just jumped the shark. > -- > Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> > http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > > "Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is > writing a book." --Cicero > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > ------------------------------ > > End of Baypiggies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glen at glenjarvis.com Sun Sep 22 22:02:45 2013 From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:02:45 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do not believe this is a scam. I am in a class today with Ryan S (ryan at appacademy.io) from App Academy. The class is NOT an app academy class, it's a master class (proglangmasterclasd.com) and Ryan is also attending. I mentioned this to him and he agreed that he will bring this to his boss' attention immediately. I only have my gut instinct on this, but I believe this is a genuine mistake (somewhere). Please let us know how it works out. Kindest Regards, Glen P.S. Ryan is carbon copied so he can forward to his boss. > On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Elise Scher wrote: > > App AcademySan Francisco lost $1250 that I sent them thru PayPal for the tuition of my son, Edward Swernofsky. They want another $1250. Is this a scam? What can I do about this, please? > > > >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 3:00 AM, wrote: >> Send Baypiggies mailing list submissions to >> baypiggies at python.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> baypiggies-request at python.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> baypiggies-owner at python.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Baypiggies digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors At Rocket >> Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, Python, >> Django (Aahz) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:56:30 -0700 >> From: Aahz >> To: Baypiggies >> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Looking to Hire Contract Faculty & Mentors >> At Rocket Space|RocketU Developer Bootcamp; HTML/CSS/JavaScript, >> Python, Django >> Message-ID: <20130921175630.GA3890 at panix.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, David Berthelot wrote: >> > >> > Well I also had the initial reaction of being concerned when I saw unfair >> > and just skipped the original email. I agree that unfair sounds wrong to my >> > ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like >> > disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). >> > >> > To put it in a trendy way: >> > I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became >> > "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could be a >> > "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", >> > which would be a "game-changer". >> > >> > Now that sounds "sassy" :) >> >> Naw, you've just jumped the shark. >> -- >> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ >> >> "Times are bad. 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I hope for the students' sake the term is not actually descriptive of the learning experience and teaching methods RocketU offers. -- James Nicholson On Saturday, September 21, 2013, Aahz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, David Berthelot wrote: > > > > Well I also had the initial reaction of being concerned when I saw unfair > > and just skipped the original email. I agree that unfair sounds wrong to > my > > ears but I now understand it might be some new startup buzzword, like > > disruptive (a overused buzzword if there ever was one). > > > > To put it in a trendy way: > > I guess that "unfair advantage" is so "cutting-edge" that it became > > "disruptive" to the "synergy" of the "value proposition", but it could > be a > > "win-win" situation for this "fast-growing" thread about to go "viral", > > which would be a "game-changer". > > > > Now that sounds "sassy" :) > > Naw, you've just jumped the shark. > -- > Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com ) <*> > http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > > "Times are bad. 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Thanks! john On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Dan Roberts wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I won't be able to make it tonight but this is a topic I don't want to > miss. I suppose it won't be recorded, but would somebody please post a link > to the slides to the list tonight? > > Thanks, > Dan > On Sep 26, 2013 11:01 AM, "John Wegis" wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Tonight's presentation will be "Duck typing and testing - two halves of >> the same coin.", by Paul Biggar. See www.baypiggies.net for more details. >> >> The meeting will begin at 7:30PM and the presentation will commence at >> 7:40PM after the usual announcements. >> >> >> *LinkedIn Corporation >> 2061 Stierlin Ct (aka Bldg 6) >> Room - Neon Carrot >> Mountain View, CA 94043* >> >> >> *NOTE-* Due to the heavy traffic for the concert tonight at the >> Shoreline Amphitheater, please give yourself *a lot of **extra time* to >> get to the presentation tonight. The Shoreline and Charleston Road exits >> are likely to be jammed. >> >> See you tonight! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.hoffman at gmail.com Thu Sep 26 22:05:14 2013 From: paul.hoffman at gmail.com (Paul Hoffman) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:05:14 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Why are there so many Pythons? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marvelous! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Tony Cappellini wrote: > > This article should be quite informative to those who are new to Python > http://www.toptal.com/python/why-are-there-so-many-pythons > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wescpy at gmail.com Fri Sep 27 19:46:41 2013 From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:46:41 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Why are there so many Pythons? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: nice forward... thx tony! On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Marvelous! > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Tony Cappellini wrote: > >> >> This article should be quite informative to those who are new to Python >> http://www.toptal.com/python/why-are-there-so-many-pythons >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it." +wesley chun : wescpy at gmail : @wescpy Python training & consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com "Core Python" books : http://CorePython.com Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Tony Cappellini wrote: > > http://ipython.org/microsoft-donation-2013.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicholsonjf at gmail.com Mon Sep 30 23:12:59 2013 From: nicholsonjf at gmail.com (James Nicholson) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:12:59 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Meeting Tonight @LinkedIn - Duck typing and testing - two halves of the same coin. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I'd be willing to make the commitment to attend and record future BayPiggies meetings. Feel free to email or call me to discuss the details. Thanks, James Mobile: 650-863-2300 Email: nicholsonjf at gmail.com On Thursday, September 26, 2013, John Wegis wrote: > Hi Dan, > > We weren't planing on having this event recorded, but I will ask Paul if > we can post the slides afterwards. Requests to record Baypiggies talks come > up from time to time. Do we have any videographer volunteers that could > help us out in the future? Thanks! > > john > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Dan Roberts > > wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> I won't be able to make it tonight but this is a topic I don't want >> to miss. I suppose it won't be recorded, but would somebody please post a >> link to the slides to the list tonight? >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> On Sep 26, 2013 11:01 AM, "John Wegis" > >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Tonight's presentation will be "Duck typing and testing - two halves of >>> the same coin.", by Paul Biggar. See www.baypiggies.net for more >>> details. >>> >>> The meeting will begin at 7:30PM and the presentation will commence at >>> 7:40PM after the usual announcements. >>> >>> >>> *LinkedIn Corporation >>> 2061 Stierlin Ct (aka Bldg 6) >>> Room - Neon Carrot >>> Mountain View, CA 94043* >>> >>> >>> *NOTE-* Due to the heavy traffic for the concert tonight at the >>> Shoreline Amphitheater, please give yourself *a lot of **extra time* to >>> get to the presentation tonight. The Shoreline and Charleston Road >>> exits are likely to be jammed. >>> >>> See you tonight! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >> 'Baypiggies at python.org');> >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: