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color=#0000ff size=2>Couldn't help myself, just had to comment. The
problem I see with doing the socialization first and then moving into all be it
short presentation, is that it will require bringing any fun conversations to an
abrupt end, and probably make it difficult to re-capture the moment.
Obviously a difficult problem, but I would think that a short (timed)
presentation first and then open the rest of the evening up for socializing and
snaks etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> baypiggies-bounces@python.org
[mailto:baypiggies-bounces@python.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tony
Cappellini<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Carl J. Van Arsdall<BR><B>Cc:</B> Python; Dennis Reinhardt<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Baypiggies] Dec. 14 Meeting "Programming Productivity: WhatReally
Matters?"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>>Just my 2cents.<BR>I see your 2, and raise you 2.<BR>Given
that it's the holiday season, I like the idea of a social session
too.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 12/14/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Carl J.
Van Arsdall</B> <<A
href="mailto:cvanarsdall@mvista.com">cvanarsdall@mvista.com</A>>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I
think Anna has several good points. Being that this meeting was
toted<BR>originally as a "meet n greet" I think that it would be
most fair to<BR>maintain part of the schedule for that purpose and fit the
presentation <BR>around that, as it propositioned last minute.<BR><BR>I
think an informal meet and greet (and not dinner or lobby time)
is<BR>important and should be done earlier in this meeting while people
are<BR>still fresh and interested in speaking to one
another. After meetings <BR>is not normally good for social time,
presentations make people tired<BR>and not as outgoing (at least in my
experience).<BR><BR>Just my 2cents.<BR><BR>Anna Ravenscroft wrote:<BR>>
Okay - let me describe what I mean by "socializing". <BR>><BR>> To me,
socializing is not:<BR>><BR>> "mapping" (mapping is a formal structure
grouping up people and the<BR>> grouping process seems to take
forever.)<BR>><BR>> dinner (getting stuck next to someone I've never
met and have nothing <BR>> in common with and having to make smalltalk
with them for the next<BR>> hour is my idea of hell.)<BR>><BR>>
extending the Q&A session after a presentation - leaving those of
us<BR>> who have heard enough stuck with the choice of being *rude* or
waiting <BR>> patiently in hopes that eventually we can stand up and go
talk to<BR>> someone we have been wanting to talk with - which usually
happens<BR>> about 5 minutes before we're kicked out of the
room...<BR>><BR>> Milling around in the lobby of google waiting to
fill out a badge and<BR>> be shepherded up to a room just in time for the
presentation to start.<BR>> Not everyone is there, and we're usually
rather distracted. <BR>><BR>> Socializing - what I'm asking for - is a
chance to talk to people, _by<BR>> choice_ -- not by enforced proximity
or structured format -- including<BR>> the chance to walk around and talk
to more than one person. Having <BR>> snacks and beverages is
nice.<BR>><BR>> I would like a chance to socialize.<BR>><BR>>
Cordially,<BR>> Anna<BR>>
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