+1 +1 +1 +1<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Alex Martelli <<a href="mailto:aleax@google.com">aleax@google.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <<a href="mailto:jjinux@gmail.com">jjinux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
...<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">>> Seems very direct to me -- the class's direct attributes are kept in<br>
>> the class body's locals() while said body executes, and that's the<br>
>> dict that's passed to the metaclass's __new__ (and possibly __init__)<br>
</div> ...<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> Thanks, Alex, I didn't know about that ;)<br>
<br>
</div>Oops -- my bad, I thought everybody needing such hyper-advanced<br>
knowledge had it... but just now I notice it's one of the many<br>
"hyper-advanced snippets" that ended up edited out of the Nutshell to<br>
keep it under 800 pages -- OOPS again, sorry, my bad.<br>
<br>
Would there be interest in a Baypiggies talk on "SERIOUSLY Advanced<br>
Python"? E.g. some subset of (say...):<br>
<br>
- object creation: class statement, class body, meta-classes, __new__,<br>
and __init__<br>
- attribute lookup mechanics and descriptor objects<br>
- introspection on objects, garbage collection, stack frames, tracebacks<br>
- Python bytecode inspection and alteration<br>
<br>
I need to prep (and deliver;-) a talk like this pretty soon for my<br>
YouTube colleagues, anyway, and it might be cool to reuse that<br>
preparation for a Baypiggies talk, IF there were enough Baypiggies<br>
people interested -- Aug or Sep, say. Feel free to "vote" not just +<br>
or - on the whole concept of a "seriously advanced Python" talk, but<br>
also on each of the specific subjects mentioned there, or add any<br>
"seriously advanced" subject I omitted. (I'm not so sure there's all<br>
that much interest on ALTERING bytecode, for example, but, I did once<br>
get a specific request about it -- while as far as I've probed right<br>
now there doesn't seem to be as much interest in advanced uses of<br>
generators as I'd have thought, which is why I didn't list that<br>
specific subject up there...). Feel free to answer either to the list<br>
or to me personally -- I'll eventually summarize to the list any<br>
responses that are directed to my personal mailbox.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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Alex<br>
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