I though the stacklesssocket stuff that Richard Tew was working on was pretty interesting - did you play with that?<div><br></div><div>I've heard people complain before about the open-source stackless, but it seems like such a slick solution to lots of problems that Twisted solves well, but not always elegantly.. I'm curious what real problems people have run into using Stackless for what it was intended for (basically cooperative 'multithreading')</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've always been interested in doing a Pylons implementation on top of stackless where it uses stackless for threads (i.e. tasks) instead of real threads - you'd get all the performance benefits of Twisted, without the overhead of learning to use Deferreds.</div>
<div><br></div><div>(Not to knock deferreds, they're an amazingly elegant solution to asynchronousity!)</div><div><br></div><div>Alec</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jon Rosebaugh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@inklesspen.com">jon@inklesspen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Indeed. Perhaps I overstated -- I don't consider open-source Stackless to be useful for anything involving socket I/O, which is almost 100% of what I do, so that's why I called it a toy. That could have been said a bit more politely (and accurately), but I don't actually agree with either of Shannon's suggested rephrasings.<div>
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On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:45 AM, William Deegan wrote:<br>
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All,<br>
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <<a href="mailto:jjinux@gmail.com" target="_blank">jjinux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jon Rosebaugh <<a href="mailto:jon@inklesspen.com" target="_blank">jon@inklesspen.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I did. The open source version is just a toy. Avoid.<br>
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It's possible Christian Tismer has joined this mailing list. Let's<br>
avoid pissing off open source developers. Try to phrase your<br>
complaints more politely, such as "I didn't find the open source<br>
version of stackless suitable for my needs," or "I think the open<br>
source version of stackless Python is very exciting, but I didn't find<br>
it suitable for production use."<br>
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Let he who has never written a bug throw the first stone ;)<br>
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If a user group mailing list isn't the place for frank discussion, then I'm a bit concerned.<br>
Should we reopen the name of the group? baypiggies? (anyone remember the very long and drawn out threads on that)?<br>
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My 2cents.<br>
-Bill<br>
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