<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Speaking of boto, it's actually the too entry on the Python 3 Wall of Shame. Very widely used library. No good Python 3 support yet. There are some efforts underway to remedy this which might be if interest to those looking for a project to hack on that will help advance Python 3:</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">- <span style="font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="https://github.com/boto/boto/issues/1127">https://github.com/boto/boto/issues/1127</a></span></div><div><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- </span></font><span style="font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><a href="https://github.com/boto/boto/pull/1156">https://github.com/boto/boto/pull/1156</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">The latter is a PR to try to make boto.ec2 work on Python 3. The tests pass but I haven't actually tried to use it, as my new job doesn't use EC2. </font></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">It would be useful if someone who uses EC2 regularly could give it a spin (Glen? ;-))</font></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><font face=".HelveticaNeueUI">This could be fun to sprint on, at PyCon or elsewhere, like the BayPiggies sprint that Chad sugested at the last meeting. </font></span></div><div><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><div>-Marc</div><a href="http://marc-abramowitz.com">http://marc-abramowitz.com</a></span><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">Sent from my iPhone 4S</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Glen Jarvis <<a href="mailto:glen@glenjarvis.com">glen@glenjarvis.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><div class="gmail_extra">Lyle Ryan,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"> I think this subject is pretty large and I have a habit of trying to squeeze way too much into an hour (and I gab too quickly and too much). As this is being organized a bit better and I have a more realistic understanding of what I'll be able to provide, I don't think we can do the vmware related parts for this talk.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"> However, I work on a team that has two products. And one of their products is actually a complete python product that has an engine that interfaces with/creates KVM, Xen, instances amont many other things. That product also interfaces with VMWare. This won't be part of the talk. It was clear as this started gelling that I needed to focus on Python specifically and there's a lot of that.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"> So, here's the new game plan:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">1) Hit a survey of all of the main concepts of virtualization. This is a general background and is not Python specific</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">2) Specifically introduce/review in more depth two Python "products":</div><div class="gmail_extra"> - virtualenv</div><div class="gmail_extra"> - Reviewing EC2/Using Boto to create an EC2 instance</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I will mention, on a closing slide or two the company that I work for and the product that I'm talking about (touching on the VMWare piece -- but barely touching).</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think this is all we can do within the time frame and that may be pushing it as well. However, if this is true, then we can make new talks on other topics of peoples interest down the road.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hopefully this helps.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra">Glen</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ryan, Lyle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lyle.ryan@cubic.com" target="_blank">lyle.ryan@cubic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p class="MsoNormal">ation sounds great. Can you include any areas where Python crosses-over with VMware (a large part of my job)?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks…Lyle Ryan</p></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>
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