<div dir="ltr">Dan,<div><br></div><div>I agree very much with your sentiment. If I were bitten by a snake, I may be tempted to panic -- to run to get help. It's a natural instinct. But, the wiser thing to do is to stop and think, slow circulation to the wound, and remove as much poison from the wound as possible so that it doesn't spread. It is natural for us to focus on what we lost. But, it's wiser for us to focus on all that we still have and rebuilding our community.</div><div><br></div><div>For what it is worth, I now have access to the MeetUp login account that created this MeetUp. We no longer are organizer of the <a href="http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/">http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/</a> because we did not pay our membership fees on 15-December. Suresh automatically became organizer as he has been a co-organizer since 22-July. Since we want to move forward with a MeetUp for the group, I have paid the dues out of my own pocket and will work at getting this reimbursed from the Python Software Foundation.</div><div><br></div><div>As I am the person who donated the MeetUp originally, the person who is now in control of that MeetUp account (but not the MeetUp we created), and the person who has access to the email account used to create the MeetUp account, I am the best person to work with the MeetUp teams to see what should be done. I am doing the best that I can to sort out this problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Since we didn't pay our dues and weren't proactive in the situation, it's not as cut and dry as one originally would think. We have emails warning us that we were going to lose the ability to control the MeetUp group and we ignored them.</div><div><br></div><div>But know that I am actively working on it and am in communication with MeetUp. And, more importantly, let's focus on rebuilding our thriving community. I also have access to 3,772 Pythonistas from my own MeetUp (The Silicon Valley Python MeetUp). We've cross posted to BayPIGgies before for quite a while. So, there is a common user base between the groups.</div><div><br></div><div>Our next meeting in less than two weeks already has 120 going and 44 on the wait list -- more than than room capacity until we know what room we get at LinkedIn. We could easily completely fill the Neon Carrot meeting room past capacity.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for sharing your sentiment today, Dan. It was very helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Glen</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:12 AM, Dan Bikle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dan@bot4.us" target="_blank">dan@bot4.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think any effort spent on Suresh is wasted effort.<br><br>I dealt with Suresh during the past few days and I learned that communication with him is a waste of time.<br><br>I'd prefer members to focus on making SVP-Meetup better.<br><br>Eventually barprigies will die on the vine.<br><br>Suresh refers to his members as APEs.<br><br>I doubt APEs will continue paying Suresh.<br><br>I like Bill's idea of getting the old userlist but I wonder about the details associated with getting them joined to SVP-Meetup.<br><br>I can see some reasons why <a href="http://meetup.com" target="_blank">meetup.com</a> might be reluctant to give that list to Bill.<br><br>Perhaps the way forward is to 'Get the word out'.<br><br>Through that action perhaps SVP-Meetup will have a large, active community.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>-Dan Bikle<br>
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