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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello<br>
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      Given the dormant nature of the Python-belgium mailinglists (on
      average the past 5 years),<br>
      this discussion "Let's organize EuroPython" is always surprising
      to see.<br>
      <br>
      Given that the resources are nearly non-existant for a huge task
      like this, <br>
      given the very limited number of Belgian attendees to past
      EuroPython-conferences,<br>
      who really thinks this a good idea?<br>
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      Aren't we trying to run a marathon before learning to walk?<br>
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      Best regards,<br>
      Wouter Vanden Hove<br>
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      Op 11-08-16 om 17:45 schreef Didrik Pinte:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 10 August 2016 at 17:40, Stephane
            Wirtel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:stephane@wirtel.be" target="_blank">stephane@wirtel.be</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                On 08/10, Didrik Pinte wrote:<br>
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                  On 5 August 2016 at 15:30, Stephane Wirtel <<a
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                    href="mailto:stephane@wirtel.be" target="_blank">stephane@wirtel.be</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    We first need to setup an asbl/vzw/VoG.<br>
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                      This will help if we organise pyconbe or/and
                      europython (and also for<br>
                      pythonfosdem)<br>
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                    Setup an asbl/vzw/VoG is a requirement if you want
                    to receive some<br>
                    sponsors.<br>
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                  I think it is really needed. I would be very happy to
                  donate to support<br>
                  various things but that will have to go through my
                  company, which will also<br>
                  require a legal entity to donate to.<br>
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              Yep, I understand and it's my case with my freelancer
              status. I can give time but not money.<span class=""><br>
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                    but I am totally agree with you. without that, we
                    are not a legal entity<br>
                    and we can't organise the PyCon.BE or EuroPython in
                    Belgium for 2019/2020.<br>
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                  <br>
                  If we want to go this way, I can ask a lawyer to draft
                  the articles of<br>
                  association. There will be some specific criteria to
                  be filled in, in<br>
                  particular if there is a will to organize larger
                  events in the future.<br>
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              In the case of EuroPython, there is the EuroPython
              Society.<br>
              <br>
              For PyCon.be, we do agree with you, we need good statuses,
              but what do you propose for the specific criteria.</blockquote>
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            <div>The list will more than likely be pretty clear once we
              have a specific set of questions from a lawyer and a first
              meeting with the people who want to be part of founding
              the asbl/vzw.</div>
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            <div>Do we need/want a membership fee, how do we elect board
              members, how do we want to manage budgets (specific
              mandates for certain people), etc. </div>
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                  <br>
                  I suggest people interested in investing some time in
                  the ASBL/VZW contact<br>
                  me directly. We will organise a meeting shortly and
                  discuss the various<br>
                  details. How does that sound?<br>
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              Firstly, we need to have some active members. </blockquote>
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            <div>I guess we surely have some, at least looking at the
              activity of the different mailing list over the past
              months and the consolidation that is happening.</div>
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Secondly, why you
              directly ?<br>
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            <div>It's a proposal. I'm pretty happy if anyone else wants
              to do it but someone will have to kick something off ;-) </div>
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            <div>-- Didrik</div>
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