Whilst we're considering new classifiers - any word on this one?<br><br>Michael<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 October 2011 16:06, Michael Foord <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fuzzyman@gmail.com">fuzzyman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 16 September 2011 00:18, M.-A. Lemburg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mal@egenix.com" target="_blank">mal@egenix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Michael Foord wrote:<br>
> On 15 September 2011 15:24, M.-A. Lemburg <<a href="mailto:mal@egenix.com" target="_blank">mal@egenix.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Programming Language - Python - Implementation - CPython<br>
>>>> Programming Language - Python - Implementation - pypy<br>
>>>> Programming Language - Python - Implementation - jython<br>
>>>> Programming Language - Python - Implementation - IronPython<br>
>>><br>
>>> Opinions on this proposal? (including the specific spelling,<br>
>>> leaving alone that the separator is ::, not -)<br>
>><br>
>> Better user CPython, PyPy and Jython for consistency with the<br>
>> other Trove spellings.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm -0 on the "Implementation" part. Do we really need this ?<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Jython, PyPy and CPython are not "programming languages" they're<br>
> implementations of the Python programming language - so I would prefer to<br>
> differentiate like this.<br>
<br>
</div>Well, yes, but if you look at the OS section of the Trove list<br>
you also find different implementations of BSD under the<br>
BSD category:<br>
<br>
Operating System :: POSIX :: BSD<br>
Operating System :: POSIX :: BSD :: BSD/OS<br>
Operating System :: POSIX :: BSD :: FreeBSD<br>
Operating System :: POSIX :: BSD :: NetBSD<br>
Operating System :: POSIX :: BSD :: OpenBSD<br>
<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Well, they're BSD variants whereas pypy (and other implementations) aim very much not to be variants. I'd still rather see them listed under a Python implementation sub-classifier but it isn't a big deal.<br>
</div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
(just to take one exmaple)<br>
<br>
See <a href="http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=list_classifiers" target="_blank">http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=list_classifiers</a> for the full<br>
list.<br>
<br>
Also note that Cython is listed as:<br>
<br>
Programming Language :: Cython<br>
<br></blockquote></div><div><br>That's correct. Cython is a programming language not an implementation. I would include Shedskin as a programming language rather than an implementation too. Listing implementations as programming languages loses the ability to make this distinction at the classifier level (and is also *incorrect* to my mind).<br>
<br> </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
even Zope is listed as programming language:<br>
<br>
Programming Language :: Zope<br></blockquote></div><div><br><br>That's odd. :-)<br><br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
so there isn't all that much consistency in the naming.<br>
<br>
BTW: Stackless is missing from your list.<br>
<div><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br><br>Right. Stackless should probably be on the list as libraries may depend on Stackless features.<br><br>All the best,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Michael<br><br> <br></font></div>
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>> Also: What about release versions of those implementations ?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> We could always add those later if anyone really wanted them (for Python we<br>
> have the broad "Python" *plus* version specific categories). In other words,<br>
> YAGNI (for now).<br>
><br>
> Michael<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Jython and IronPython appear to follow the CPython release<br>
>> versions, but PyPy uses its own version scheme.<br>
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