<div dir="ltr">>> <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Well, then if normal coders are presumed unsafe for women, then why not we have chennai_py_woman group where they can feel safe.</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">No one has presumed anything, yet. The goal of this discussion is what action to take if someone shows up to our free, open event and cannot behave him/herself and treat everyone with respect in regards to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc, etc. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">>> </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Any way I haven't read the entire thread as I am a new joiner.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Not sure if the previous messages are viewable to a new member, but the idea is to make sure we have a process in place to remove anyone who makes the environment unsafe (not assuming everyone is unsafe). Hope this helps clarify.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">>> </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I strongly believe men and women are equal and both must get the same treatment without any partiality. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I agree, 100%.</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">>> A tech group I feel must have technically sound people. He or she may be a saint or a bandit AFK, that should not concern us. Neither does one's language and tone must be considered.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">If someone is acting like a jerk and cannot behave himself, harasses members of Chennaipy, or otherwise does explicit things to make certain members feel unsafe or uncomfortable, then I personally don't care how smart that person is. I do not believe such divisive individuals belong in an open community dedicated to sharing knowledge and making networking connections.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Hopefully, the Code of Conduct will draw a clear line between this idea that "</span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">normal coders are presumed unsafe for women</span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">" and people who are actually actively harmful to the community and this mission to be more inclusive.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Hope this helps clarify. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>James</div><div><div><br></div><div>Phone: <i> 866-707-4590</i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Karthikeyan A K <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karthikeyan@openmailbox.org" target="_blank">karthikeyan@openmailbox.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Well, then if normal coders are presumed unsafe for women, then why not we have chennai_py_woman group where they can feel safe.<div><br></div><div>I strongly believe men and women are equal and both must get the same treatment without any partiality. A tech group I feel must have technically sound people. He or she may be a saint or a bandit AFK, that should not concern us. Neither does one's language and tone must be considered.</div><div><br></div><div>Putting rules might be appropriate if you have a group of MBA's</div><div><br></div><div>Any way I haven't read the entire thread as I am a new joiner.</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br><br>On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Shrayas rajagopal <<a href="mailto:shrayasr@gmail.com" target="_blank">shrayasr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap">On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Vijay Kumar <<a href="mailto:vijaykumar@bravegnu.org" target="_blank">vijaykumar@bravegnu.org</a>> wrote:
<blockquote> Hi Shrayas, before we absorb the Code of Conduct, I would
like to ensure that the implementation details are worked
out.
For example, I would like to make sure that we have a process
in place to ensure that somebody who has been banned is not
allowed to attend the meetup.
For the Code of Conduct to be effective a process that
enforces it is required.
</blockquote>
Agree. Should we have this as a discussion during the meetup itself
then? What is your plan on going about with this?
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Karthikeyan A K
<<a href="mailto:karthikeyan@openmailbox.org" target="_blank">karthikeyan@openmailbox.org</a>> wrote:
<blockquote> Who was banned and for what? Aren't tech groups supposed to be free places?
</blockquote>
Karthikeyan, have you read the entire thread? The discussion is on
making Chennaipy more safe for women and a code of conduct could be
one step towards that. Having a code of conduct means we need a way to
enforce that. Vijay was talking about how we could bring such a
process out.
Hope it clears the point.
Regards,
Shrayas
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