"Everyone" is a big word, isn't it?<br><br>Many of us use Python because it's a useful language for a diverse range of applications. It doesn't mean we "hate" other languages. It doesn't even mean we're in love with Python.<br>
<br>And are you really saying that Jython is not Python? If so, perhaps you choose Python because you think CPython is such a wonderful runtime? More wonderful than the JVM, apparently.<br><br>Seriously, what a tired thread. If Webware is "not cool" anymore, then so are language wars.<br>
<br>-Tal<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Brian Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brianherman@gmail.com">brianherman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
But more over the reason why everyone is using python is because they hate java. If you put that in the description then everyone will immediately ignore it.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Brian Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brianherman@gmail.com" target="_blank">brianherman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Well he should say its a jython job or something.<br>Not exactly python.<div><div></div><div>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Lukasz Szybalski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:szybalski@gmail.com" target="_blank">szybalski@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Daniel Griffin <<a href="mailto:dgriff1@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgriff1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Typically it is fine, but usually more of a "hey my company is hiring, its<br>
> pretty cool working here" kind of post instead a wall of inconsistent<br>
> requirements for a job in huge red text.<br>
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</div>In Paul defense, if he says its a python job, it is, other wise he<br>
would not sent it here. I've worked with him on a job interview back<br>
in 2008 and he really works with you to get that job if you fit the<br>
minimal description at least.<br>
>From the job description it looks like they want a well rounded<br>
programmer that can do python work.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Lucas<br>
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> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Kristofer White <<a href="mailto:kristoferwhite@gmail.com" target="_blank">kristoferwhite@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Forgive me, I'm new, but is a mailing list like this the appropriate<br>
>> place for job postings in general?<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Brian Herman <<a href="mailto:brianherman@gmail.com" target="_blank">brianherman@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Can we ban this guy for bringing up java?<br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> > Brian Herman<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://brianjherman.com" target="_blank">brianjherman.com</a><br>
>> > Research Assistant<br>
>> > University Of Illinois at Chicago<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:brianherman@acm.org" target="_blank">brianherman@acm.org</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Brian Herman <<a href="mailto:brianherman@gmail.com" target="_blank">brianherman@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> J2EE == (python - 10000000 x 10^300)<br>
>> >> Thanks,<br>
>> >> Brian Herman<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="http://brianjherman.com" target="_blank">brianjherman.com</a><br>
>> >> Research Assistant<br>
>> >> University Of Illinois at Chicago<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:brianherman@acm.org" target="_blank">brianherman@acm.org</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Jon Sudlow <<a href="mailto:jsudlow@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsudlow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> J2EE a BIG plus?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Brian Herman <<a href="mailto:brianherman@gmail.com" target="_blank">brianherman@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> It looks like he wants a java developer.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2010 11:17 AM, "Adam Jenkins" <<a href="mailto:emperorcezar@gmail.com" target="_blank">emperorcezar@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >>>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> > Oh god, the red, it burns my eyes! The goggles! They do nothing!<br>
>> >>>> ><br>
>> >>>> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul May<br>
>> >>>> > <<a href="mailto:paul@paulmayassociates.com" target="_blank">paul@paulmayassociates.com</a>><br>
>> >>>> > wrote:<br>
>> >>>> >> Doesn anyone know anyone that may fit this role below??? Any help<br>
>> >>>> >> truly<br>
>> >>>> >> appreciated ;-)<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> PYTHON Software Development<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> FTP<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> $75,000.00 - $100,000.00<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Python Web Developer, Deerfield Illinois 60015<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> A minimum of one plus yrs of solid GUI or server side Web-<br>
>> >>>> >> Application<br>
>> >>>> >> PYTHON software development experience.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Solid understanding of object orient concepts, using formal<br>
>> >>>> >> development<br>
>> >>>> >> methods. (Experience with agile/test driven methodologies a plus)<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Experience developing robust, secure, complex, scalable, high<br>
>> >>>> >> volume,<br>
>> >>>> >> commercial-grade web applications.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Should have some database programming with PostgreSQL, DB2, or<br>
>> >>>> >> Oracle,<br>
>> >>>> >> SQLAlchemy or Twisted.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Financial and business workflow development experience.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Expertise with all phases of the software development lifecycle,<br>
>> >>>> >> including<br>
>> >>>> >> requirements analysis, design, coding, testing, implementation,<br>
>> >>>> >> and<br>
>> >>>> >> support.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Any architect and systems development experience a big plus.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Application development using Linux, Apache, Webware, SQLObject,<br>
>> >>>> >> Reportlab,<br>
>> >>>> >> and J2EE technologies a big plus.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Web services and enterprise application integration experience a<br>
>> >>>> >> big<br>
>> >>>> >> plus<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Business process focused systems experience a big plus.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Skills working in a collaborative team environment.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> BA/BS in CS or equivalent experience.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Excellent verbal and written communication skills.<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Click here to apply online<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Paul<br>
>> >>>> >><br>
>> >>>> >> Paul May & Associates (PMA)<br>
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