<div dir="ltr">Concerning Java smells, this <a href="http://pyvideo.org/pycon-us-2012/stop-writing-classes.html">Stop Writing Classes</a> talk really emphasizes the clarity and simplicity of Python for devs who come from more verbose langs.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Tathagata Dasgupta <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tathagatadg@gmail.com" target="_blank">tathagatadg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think Jason is talking about people who write Python that smell (terribly) of Java (version < 8).<div>We happen to know quite a few who do this ;)</div><div>Other than Raymond Hettinger's famous pycon 2013 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSGv2VnC0go" target="_blank">talk</a>, <a href="http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html" target="_blank">this</a> article, what would you recommend?</div><div>I think talking to some of these seasoned Java developers in the language of design patterns could work.</div><div>Alex Martelli's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJJlVBVTFg" target="_blank">talk</a> on Python design patterns. </div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:29 PM Jordan Bettis <<a href="mailto:jordanb@hafd.org" target="_blank">jordanb@hafd.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_2864425410063217275m_-3976372660164345614moz-cite-prefix m_2864425410063217275gmail_msg">The tutorial on <a href="http://python.org" class="m_2864425410063217275gmail_msg" target="_blank">python.org</a> is a
reasonably good intro and it doesn't waste a lot of time trying to
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Python has an interactive shell but I'd recommend installing
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On 12/01/2016 06:14 PM, Jason Wirth wrote:<br class="m_2864425410063217275gmail_msg">
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