<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 June 2014 23:40, Katie Cunningham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:katie.fulton@gmail.com" target="_blank">katie.fulton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Does that apply to SciPy as well, or just organizations using "PyCon"?<br>
I'm disappointed if it's just the latter, as I had assumed that any<br>
Python conference would be safe to attend.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The scipy community has always been a very welcoming community, and I truly believe that having or not having a Coc is not going to make a difference concerning your safety at this conference or at EuroScipy. If you looked at the organizing/program committees, you'd see it is a very diverse conference. I think this speaks much more about the atmosphere of the conference than any code of conduct.</div>
<div>I'd also like to point (because Coc usually target sexism) that any scientific python conferences have always had a much higher number of women attending, talking or organizing than any other traditional python events.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyways, Scipy has a code of conduct. EuroScipy doesn't.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Jesse Noller <<a href="mailto:jnoller@gmail.com">jnoller@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That is correct; previously it was only tied to funding. It is now trademark policy.<br>
><br>
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Katie Cunningham <<a href="mailto:katie.fulton@gmail.com">katie.fulton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Wait, I thought that any "official" Python conference had to have a<br>
>> Code of Conduct in place? Perhaps it was tied to getting PSF funds?<br>
>><br>
>> As for it not being "popular" in the EU, both DjangoCon EU and PyCon<br>
>> EU have had CoCs in place for at least the past two years.<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Nelle Varoquaux<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:nelle.varoquaux@gmail.com">nelle.varoquaux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>> I understand the necessity of protecting the name "Pycon" and "python", but<br>
>>> being involved in several organization committees of conferences on python<br>
>>> or scientific python, I'll just comment on the following:<br>
>>><br>
>>> "It is the policy of the Python Software Foundation to allow the use<br>
>>> of "PyCon" for conferences that focus on Python the programming<br>
>>> language, have adopted a code of conduct compatible with that of the<br>
>>> PSF, and allow anyone to attend the conference subject to a<br>
>>> reasonable conference fee."<br>
>>><br>
>>> There are cultures and countries where the concept of a code of conduct is<br>
>>> not at all welcomed. We discussed about this for EuroScipy (happening in the<br>
>>> UK this year, but with organizers from all around Europe: France, Belgium,<br>
>>> Italy, Germany, etc), and we decided not to have one. I think this is the<br>
>>> type of statement that are "normal" in north america, but less so in many<br>
>>> European countries, one of the reason being that what is stated in the code<br>
>>> of conduct is just considered normal behavior.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>> N<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 2 June 2014 19:34, M.-A. Lemburg <<a href="mailto:mal@python.org">mal@python.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear conference organizers,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> the PSF board has recently discussed and voted on a new trademark<br>
>>>> policy for the term "PyCon". Our main intent is to protect the<br>
>>>> name from unwanted third party use for the benefit of the Python<br>
>>>> community. We simply don't want to run into another <a href="http://python.co.uk" target="_blank">python.co.uk</a><br>
>>>> trademark situation:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://pyfound.blogspot.de/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html" target="_blank">http://pyfound.blogspot.de/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We have not yet put this up on the website, but since the question<br>
>>>> has come up, I'd like to share it with you via email as upfront info:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> """<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "PyCon" Trademark Policy<br>
>>>> ------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In order to protect the term "PyCon" against unwanted or misleading<br>
>>>> use by third parties, the PSF claims the term “PyCon” as a trademark<br>
>>>> worldwide for conference activities. The PSF is additionally pursuing<br>
>>>> registration of the mark in various jurisdictions.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It is the policy of the Python Software Foundation to allow the use<br>
>>>> of "PyCon" for conferences that focus on Python the programming<br>
>>>> language, have adopted a code of conduct compatible with that of the<br>
>>>> PSF, and allow anyone to attend the conference subject to a<br>
>>>> reasonable conference fee. Use of the trademark is subject to<br>
>>>> approval by the PSF trademarks committee (write to<br>
>>>> psf-trademarks at <a href="http://python.org" target="_blank">python.org</a>).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The PSF may update this policy from time to time. Updates will be<br>
>>>> published and announced by the PSF.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> PyCon Conferences Around the World<br>
>>>> -----------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> PyCon conferences are community-led and community-focused gatherings<br>
>>>> of Python programmers around the world. Want to start a PyCon in your<br>
>>>> own country? Contact us! We want to help.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The following are authorized PyCon community conferences:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "Kiwi PyCon", "PyCon NZ" in New Zealand<br>
>>>> "PyCon Asia Pacific", "PyCon APAC" in Asia<br>
>>>> "PyCon AR", "PyCon Argentina" in Argentina<br>
>>>> "PyCon AU", "PyCon Australia" in Australia<br>
>>>> "PyCon CA", "PyCon Canada" in Canada<br>
>>>> "PyCon CH", "PyCon China" in China<br>
>>>> "PyCon DE" in Germany<br>
>>>> "PyCon ES", "PyCon España", "PyCon Spain" in Spain<br>
>>>> "PyCon FI", "PyCon Finland" in Finland<br>
>>>> "PyCon FR", "PyCon France" in France<br>
>>>> "PyCon IN", "PyCon India" in India<br>
>>>> "PyCon IR", "PyCon Iran" in Iran<br>
>>>> "PyCon IE", "PyCon Ireland" in Ireland<br>
>>>> "PyCon IT", "PyCon Italia" in Italy<br>
>>>> "PyCon JP", "PyCon Japan" in Japan<br>
>>>> "PyCon MY", "PyCon Malaysia" in Malaysia<br>
>>>> "PyCon PH", "PyCon Philippines" in the Philippines<br>
>>>> "PyCon PL", "PyCon Poland" in Poland<br>
>>>> "PyCon RU", "PyCon Russia" in Russia<br>
>>>> "PyCon SG", "PyCon Singapore" in Singapore<br>
>>>> "PyCon SE", "PyCon Sweden" in Sweden<br>
>>>> "PyCon TW", "PyCon Taiwan" in Taiwan<br>
>>>> "PyCon UK" in the United Kingdom<br>
>>>> "UA PyCon", "PyCon Ukraine", "PyCon UA" in Ukraine<br>
>>>> “PyCon US” in the United States<br>
>>>> "PyCon UY", "PyCon Uruguay" in Uruguay<br>
>>>> "PyCon VE", "PyCon Venezuela" in Venezuela<br>
>>>> "PyCon ZA", "PyCon South Africa" in South Africa<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If we have forgotten a national or regional PyCon conference<br>
>>>> in this list or have used the wrong naming, please write to<br>
>>>> the PSF trademark committee for approval.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It is also possible to use a <a href="http://pycon.org" target="_blank">pycon.org</a> sub-domain as home<br>
>>>> for the conference. Please write to webmaster at <a href="http://pycon.org" target="_blank">pycon.org</a> to<br>
>>>> request a sub-domain.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> """<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As you can see, we have tried to grandfather all existing<br>
>>>> PyCon conferences that we could find and are aware of into<br>
>>>> the resolution.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you have questions, please let me know.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg<br>
>>>> Director<br>
>>>> Python Software Foundation<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.python.org/psf/" target="_blank">http://www.python.org/psf/</a><br>
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