QUOTE<br>imho,<br>
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PyPI + PEP 381 + PEP 381 compliant clients == CPAN<br>UNQUOTE<br>In addition to PyPI, PEP381, PEP381 compliant clients, we need a dash of changed outlook to get CPAN. The Perl community is -- by hearsay -- oriented sympathetically towards people who are not primarily programmers. In particular, I have heard scientists and finance persons developing web applications say this when introduced to python.<br>
<br>But the same people were more satisfied with the python stuff when somebody helped them through the technicalities.<br><br>When someone encounters PyPI for the first time, is it easy to learn about it from the PyPI page itself? Hopeful clicks on the "tutorial" link brings up a bewildering CheeseShop Tutorial, without an explanation of what CheeseShop is. Reading through the options detailed in the page makes sense only if you already know about them. Definitely not the material for the beginner or for the technologically-just-adequate.<br>
<br>By the way, the PyPI tutorial is just an example. The python community, while excellent in the support it provides to the technically competent, needs to be more friendly towards mere end-users. The attitude should be more charitable than "GOD helps them, and only them, who help themselves".<br>
<br>Or, rather than between commuinities, is it actually the difference between Python and Perl as languages themselves?<br><br>Regards<br>Milind Khadilkar<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Tarek Ziadé <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ziade.tarek@gmail.com">ziade.tarek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM, <<a href="mailto:exarkun@twistedmatrix.com">exarkun@twistedmatrix.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> PyPI *does* let you download packages easily, it does let you upload new<br>
> ones and organize them without having to worry about integrating them into<br>
> existing packages. So the features of CPAN that are described as desirable<br>
> are already available in PyPI.<br>
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</div>imho,<br>
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