<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://2528/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Jason R. Coombs" <<a href="mailto:jaraco@jaraco.com">jaraco@jaraco.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Donald,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> What’s the next step to support this bootstrap script? Do we need a ticket for PyPI to support this mechanism? How will PyPI resolve the ‘latest’ virtual link when there are multiple non-hidden versions (as with setuptools 0.7.4 and 0.6c11), or does the uploader make that determination?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; "><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Donald Stufft [mailto:donald@stufft.io]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, 10 June, 2013 14:15<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jason R. Coombs<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tres Seaver; <a href="mailto:Distutils-Sig@Python.Org">Distutils-Sig@Python.Org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Distutils] Setuptools 0.7.2 and Distribute 0.7 (compatibility wrapper) on PyPI<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:55 PM, "Jason R. Coombs" <<a href="mailto:jaraco@jaraco.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">jaraco@jaraco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">There seems to be a dominant opinion that the file should be on PyPI, and I don't disagree.<br><br>One issue is that the file must be mutable. It necessarily contains a reference to the preferred version to be downloaded. That version changes over time. It's typically incremented, but sometimes decremented.<br><br>It's possible the script could be updated to otherwise discover the most appropriate version. As it's currently implemented however, the file must be expected to change over time.<br><br>Because the file must change during each release, the system needs to be able to accept an updated version. This is why the Bitbucket Link was referenced, because it can include that version information.<br><br>I'm open to suggestions on how we can create a perma link to a file that changes over time on PyPI.<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Put a version in the filename/path, and have a "latest" tag that just 301 redirects to whatever is latest.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">/bootstrap/setuptools/latest/ez_setup.py -> 301 Redirect to<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">/bootstrap/setuptools/0.7.2/ez_setup.py<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>For now, the most authoritative place I could think of for that file was the bit bucket downloads. Let's identify a mechanism to do the same on PyPI and get that into set of tools for the next release.<br><br>Sent from my comm<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br>-----------------<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Donald Stufft<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>I think we're going to make a small one off web app for uploading it. I'll see if I can whip something up.</div><div><br></div><div>If it supports:</div><div> * Uploading files</div><div> * Versioned Urls</div><div> * "Latest" url which redirects to the latest version</div><div><br></div><div>Will that be enough for your uses?</div><div>
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