<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, May 7, 2016, 12:16 Chris Barker <<a href="mailto:chris.barker@noaa.gov">chris.barker@noaa.gov</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Brett Cannon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brett@python.org" target="_blank">brett@python.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span style="line-height:1.5">What fields there will be and their semantics ...</span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><ol><ol><li><span style="line-height:1.5">Format version (so just deciding on a name -- which also includes whether it should be top-level or in a subsection -- and initial value)</span></li><li><span style="line-height:1.5">The actual bootstrap field (so its name and what to do if a dependency is already installed but at a version that doesn't match what the bootstrap specification asks for)</span></li></ol></ol><div>Am I missing anything?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>So what is this new configuration file supposed to cover?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>How to specify what has to be installed to simply build a project, e.g. is setuptools needed to run setup.py, and if so what version?</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> All the package meta-data? i.e. everything that would be needed by a package manager to properly install the package?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>or the build meta-data: everything needed by the build system to build the package?</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>both in one file?<br><br></div><div>And am missing something? </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>You're missing that you're talking several PEPs down the road. :) Right now all we are discussing is how to specify what build tools a project needs (historically setuptools, but in the future it could be flit or something else).</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>how is this about "bootstrapping" -- to me, bootstrapping is when you need X to build X. Isn't this just regular old configuration: you need x,y to build z?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Sure, if you don't like the term "bootstrap" then you can call it "build requirements". We have not been calling it " configuration" in a general sense as this doesn't cover how to invoke the build step (that will probably be the next PEP), just what needs to be installed to even potentially do a build.</div><div><br></div><div>-Brett</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div>-CHB<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div> And since I keep pushing on this I'm willing to be a co-author on any PEP if there's no hard deadline in getting the PEP written (i.e. I can help write the prose, but I don't have the time to do the coding as this will be the fourth PEP I have going in some state; got to catch up to Nick's 35 PEPs somehow ;).</div></div></div></div>
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