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<body><div>I wouldn't expect established tools like pip & setuptools to accept pull requests implementing a PEP which is still under discussion and subject to change. They will naturally want a stable, accepted spec before they consider merging code for it.<br></div>
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<div>We've probably all wished that the discussion could be brought to a swift conclusion. But there are real questions to work out, and people have many other things to pay attention to. I'm frustrated by how long it's taking as well, but there's no magic button anyone can press to make it go quickly.<br></div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, at 08:17 PM, xoviat wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">At this point, I can only offer implementations as I have been attempting to do (some of which are outdated because the PEP has changed), but I cannot make anyone pay attention to or accept my pull requests and it seems I cannot accelerate the discussion here.<br></div>
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<div defang_data-gmailquote="yes"><div>2017-08-18 14:08 GMT-05:00 xoviat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xoviat@gmail.com">xoviat@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div>
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<div defang_data-gmailquote="yes"><div>2017-08-18 12:37 GMT-05:00 Thomas Kluyver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas@kluyver.me.uk">thomas@kluyver.me.uk</a>></span>:<br></div>
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<div><div>There's prototype machinery to call the hooks here, though it's outdated because the spec keeps changing:<br></div>
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<div>There's a prototype backend in a branch of flit, but it's even more outdated:<br></div>
<div><a href="https://github.com/takluyver/flit/tree/toml-config">https://github.com/takluyver/f<wbr>lit/tree/toml-config</a><br></div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, at 06:27 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><p dir="ltr">Apart from the issues, can we get some prototype implementations?<br></p><div><br></div>
<div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, 13:24 xoviat <<a href="mailto:xoviat@gmail.com">xoviat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div>What are the specific issues that need to be worked out? <br></div>
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<div><div>2017-08-18 3:09 GMT-05:00 Thomas Kluyver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas@kluyver.me.uk">thomas@kluyver.me.uk</a>></span>:<br></div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><span>On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, at 07:09 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:<br> > The other aspect I'm not clear on is whether or not both PEP authors<br> > are otherwise happy for the current version to be *considered* for<br> > acceptance<br> <br> </span>Nathaniel has mentioned to me a list of issues he sees that we still</div>
<div>need to work through. So I think we're going to be working on this for a<br></div>
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