<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 October 2017 at 03:41, Toshio Kuratomi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.badger@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.badger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">When we locked down pypi to prevent uploading an sdist to overwrite a<br>
previous I remember that some people wanted a brief window to check<br>
for brown paper bag issues and be able to upload a new tarball in that<br>
window if needed.  IIRC, those people were told to use testpypi for<br>
that sort of thing.  Upload potential tarball to testpypi.  If it<br>
works, go ahead and rerun to upload to the real pypi.  If it doesn't,<br>
fix it and try again.<br></blockquote><div><br></div>Ideally we'd be recommending <a href="https://devpi.net/docs/devpi/devpi/stable/%2Bd/index.html">https://devpi.net/docs/devpi/devpi/stable/%2Bd/index.html</a> to folks looking to develop a robust pre-release artifact testing workflow.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">While we mention it a couple of times on <a href="http://packaging.python.org">packaging.python.org</a> [1,2], and include it in the packaging related Non-PyPA Projects list [3], we don't really emphasise that it makes a much better platform for pre-release testing and private experimentation than PyPI itself does (see <a href="https://devpi.net/">https://devpi.net/</a> for an example of a deployed instance with multiple distinct user namespaces).</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Given Donald's comment about the current test PyPI not being particularly good at any of its roles, perhaps it would make sense to aim to replace it with a periodically purged DevPi instance?<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_quote">Nick.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">[1] <a href="https://packaging.python.org/guides/index-mirrors-and-caches/?highlight=devpi#caching-with-devpi">https://packaging.python.org/guides/index-mirrors-and-caches/?highlight=devpi#caching-with-devpi</a><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">[2] <a href="https://packaging.python.org/guides/hosting-your-own-index/?highlight=devpi">https://packaging.python.org/guides/hosting-your-own-index/?highlight=devpi</a></div><div class="gmail_quote">[3] <a href="https://packaging.python.org/key_projects/?highlight=devpi#non-pypa-projects">https://packaging.python.org/key_projects/?highlight=devpi#non-pypa-projects</a><br clear="all"></div><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Nick Coghlan   |   <a href="mailto:ncoghlan@gmail.com" target="_blank">ncoghlan@gmail.com</a>   |   Brisbane, Australia</div>
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