<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 May 2018 at 05:49, Al Sweigart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:al@inventwithpython.com" target="_blank">al@inventwithpython.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I definitely agree will all of Julien's points. Having a face is distracting, makes editing harder, and dealing with lighting/makeup to look good on camera is a pain.<br><br>Also, the videos should be a *maximum* of 6 minutes in length. Philip Guo (creator of <a href="http://pythontutor.com" target="_blank">pythontutor.com</a> and a CS professor at Rochester) has a great article on engagement rates for online course videos. Even with the concerns about engagement aside, short videos are easier to make and keep up to date.<br><br>Something else to consider: Do we need videos? We could also consider using a webpage with one of those <a href="https://trinket.io/" target="_blank">https://trinket.io/</a> in-browser interactive shells (though the PSF probably doesn't want to play favorites with any company.)<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The PSF doesn't tend to view that kind of thing as playing favourites - if we need to go beyond what a company offers in their baseline freemium accounts, then the PSF staff and/or Board may be able to help arrange an in-kind sponsorship, and set up a formal relationship with the vendor accordingly (e.g. PyPI relies heavily on in-kind sponsorships, and that gets recognised on <a href="https://www.python.org/psf/sponsorship/sponsors/">https://www.python.org/psf/sponsorship/sponsors/</a>).<br><br></div><div>If it's possible to avoid videos, while still providing screencast-style content, that would be a good thing - while video playback on the web is vastly better than it used to be<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Nick.<br><br></div><div>P.S. Note also that the PSF has an existing technical relationship with
PythonAnywhere to power the inline interactive shell in the
carousel at the top of the <a href="http://python.org">python.org</a> home page (click the yellow ">_" icon if you've never seen that in action). So if folks can think of ways that relationship could potentially be pursued further to help enhance the tutorial and other documentation, that would be a discussion well worth having :)<br></div></div><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Nick Coghlan | <a href="mailto:ncoghlan@gmail.com" target="_blank">ncoghlan@gmail.com</a> | Brisbane, Australia</div>
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