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I have been lurking on this mailing list for quite some time but maybe
should now stick my hand in the air.<br>
<br>
I think that PyLadies is an excellent group. I used to teach computing
at college and one of the issues that we were always trying to find
solutions for was attracting women into computer science.<br>
Any initiative that presents a women friendly path into the programming
community can only be applauded and supported. I was very pleased to see
the emergence of the Edinburgh group, well done Becky.<br>
<br>
I joined this mailing group a few years ago and attended one pub meetup
which turned out not to be what I was anticipating. Everyone was really
friendly and welcoming but due to the nature of meeting in a pub, I felt
like I was gatecrashing on a group of friends having a regular get
together.<br>
<br>
It would be interesting for someone to think about how many people, like
myself have come along to only one metup.<br>
<br>
I think the more structured approach of talks and workshops would offer a
better environment for new people to come along and feel welcomed into
the group. Then maybe more people will feel comfortable in joining in
the pub meetups as well.<br>
<br>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">PyLadies is a
global organisation with chapters in many locations around the world (<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.pyladies.com/locations/">http://www.pyladies.com/locations/</a>).
Yes, there is a need for a culture change, and PyLadies (and other
groups aimed at supporting women in programming) are part of the work
towards that change. The aim is not to divide female/male groups, but
to give women a group that they feel comfortable joining, and to provide
a bridge into the wider python community. Then we may get a better
balance at Python Edinburgh as well.<br>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div><!----><br>Python is used
by ArcGIS to automate any processes within ArcGIS, ie you<br>can program
ArcGIS in python.<br><br>gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or
grass. I might be able to<br>direct you at useful python packages to do
particular bits of GIS<br>processing. We have people use python with
ArcGIS to automate processes.<br>Another big area is processing of
satellite images.<br><br>Python is great in a scientific environment, it
is easy to use and<br>learn, there are plenty of good modules and you
are not limited to a<br>particular problem domain. We recommend python
where it makes sense and<br>see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs.
We are now starting to<br>teach our undergrads python. <br><br>Cheers<br>magnus<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Edinburgh
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><pre wrap="">I have only been to one pub meet. People were friendly but I was a bit
lost. Most people seemed regulars? For me personally demonstrations and
talks possibly more useful at my stage but I can see for more
established developers pub meetup useful.
The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of potential in
GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use with QGIS
never heard of gdal (will look up).
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Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks!
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote:
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Hello,
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents
that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes
along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash
with the timing of the pub meetup.
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
<delurking>
I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do.
Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd
prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is
tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings
with the occasional talk is more feasible.
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context?
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using
python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends.
Any particular questions?
Cheers
magnus
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><pre wrap="">On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote:
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Hello,
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational effents
that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone comes
along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash
with the timing of the pub meetup.
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
<delurking>
I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should do.
Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So I'd
prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that it is
tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub meetings
with the occasional talk is more feasible.
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS context?
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""><!---->
We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people using
python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and friends.
Any particular questions?
Cheers
magnus
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color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hello,</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="532533608-03092014"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I think I have lost track. I am
either with the people front
of Judea or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would
do
anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate
womans
group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or intimidated
then this should be discussed so we can change the culture to welcome
everyone.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="532533608-03092014"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I do think there is a space for
Educational/Presentational
effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone
comes
along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not clash with
the timing of the pub meetup. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="532533608-03092014"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Since I am emailing everyone Does
anyone use Python in a GIS
context?</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="532533608-03092014"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Cheers</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="532533608-03092014"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Glenn</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Edinburgh
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Behalf Of </b>Mark Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> 02 September 2014 16:59<br><b>To:</b>
Python Edinburgh<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Python Edinburgh]
Talks!<br></font><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi everybody,
<div><br></div>
<div>In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general feeling
that
we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks separately.
Before
Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main function can anybody
who has an
opinion reply to this thread stating their preference.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I think the options are:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>* Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a
different
day.</div>
<div>* Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python
shop's
office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub</div>
<div>* Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short talk
and
(possibly free) beer and pizza.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to post
them.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>--Mark</div></div>
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