[Edu-sig] Excited about Crunchy Frog

[Arthur]

John Zelle wrote:

>At the risk of sounding like Arthur, quotes (actually indirect references) 
>like this make me question the wisdom of Kay as an education guru. I have no 
>idea what the context for this statement is, but it sounds patently 
>ridiculous. 
>
At the risk of sounding like Arthur ;) - "patently ridiculous" sounds 
about right, and Kay has been wise in working - until now - as a Pied 
Piper and outside of the environment of responsble academia (for those 
of us who recognize there to be such a thing) in promulgating his ideas 
and populating his Posse.

I don't even need to be right about my assessment of Kay.  I just know 
that it is reasonable assessment, even if wrong.  And one of the 
hallmarks of sounding like Arthur, I like to think, is getting louder 
when being told that things like being guided by common sense, and such 
like is a relic of the past and the symptom of an obsolete and archaic 
point of view.

Kay's appeal is largely his Millenialism,  Kirby eats it up, and Arthur 
cries bullshit.

This article by a UCLA professor, which manages to express more 
coherently than I some of the concerns I have tried to express on edu-sig.

http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/academe.html

BTW, I don't agree with everyting in it.  But recognize a voice from 
responsible academia within it.

Art