[Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000

[John Zelle]

OK, I lied: one last post. I see no problem with posting a message to whatever 
group seems most appropriate and including a pointer to the discussion on 
this thread. That's not "dragging edu-sig into a political role" it's simply 
avoiding rehashing what I think has been a fruitful discussion. This is a 
public forum, and we should be willing to bring the discussion that occurs 
here to others who might (should?) have an interest.

--John

On Friday 08 September 2006 11:41 am, kirby urner wrote:
> On 9/8/06, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com> wrote:
> > I don't understand your strong reaction.  OK -- saying "if Python 3k
> > takes away input() then I'm going to use Ruby" is pretty lame and will
> > keep an opinion from being taken seriously.  But all Doug was talking
> > about was registering the opinion of people on edu-sig, who are not on
> > the py-dev, and who care about these functions where most everyone else
> > is merely indifferent.  There's no formal process one way or the other;
> > all you can do is register your opinion, there's no vote, it's not a
> > democracy, but that doesn't mean that participation doesn't matter.
> >
> > --
> > Ian Bicking | ianb at colorstudy.com | http://blog.ianbicking.org
>
> We have PEPs, forums for debating them, venues in which it's the job
> of professionals to pay attention.  What is someone to make of a
> "petition" showing up in an inbox, somehow stamped was belonging to
> Edu-Sig, which is native Python infrastructure.  What's it supposed to
> mean?  "Take me seriously just because I'm a Python SIG?"  Why?
>
> If someone wants to circulate a petition, fine, but don't drag edu-sig
> into it, is my attitude.  That's not what edu-sig is about.  It's not
> a political forum for teachers who are too lazy or otherwise
> preoccupied, to avoid doing their homework as to how Python's
> development process is already managed.
>
> Do people send petitions to Linus Torvalds about what they'd like in
> the kernel?  Maybe they do.  Sounds pretty lame to me if they do.
>
> I would hate to see edu-sig debased into some spectator group that
> sees its mission as kibbitzing about Python 3000, second guessing what
> the core language developers are up to.  That'd just kill the worth of
> this group to me.  I'd hate too see so much good work destroyed by
> politicians.
>
> Kirby
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John M. Zelle, Ph.D.             Wartburg College
Professor of Computer Science    Waverly, IA     
john.zelle at wartburg.edu          (319) 352-8360