[Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000

[ajsiegel at optonline.net]

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From: John Zelle 
Date: Friday, September 8, 2006 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000
To: edu-sig at python.org

> On Friday 08 September 2006 1:33 pm, ajsiegel at optonline.net wrote:
> > From: "Radenski, Atanas"
> >
> > > You are obviously way more intelligent than the average student
> > > whom we need to teach.
> >
> > Standardized testing seems to indicate me to be a good deal to 
> the better
> > spectrum of the bell curve.
> >
> > But I honestly believe all that buys me is the ability to be a
> > run-of-the-mill-programmer.
> 
> Perhaps, but no where near a run-of-the-mill student.
> 
> > I certainly have no feeling of being anything other than 
> within the middle
> > of pack in terms of native intelligence among those who 
> actually eventually
> > get some grasp.
> >
> > I honestly feel that curriculum geared to some a population 
> substanitally> different than myself can only being some form of 
> busywork for all
> > concerned -
> >
> > as unpleasant as that might sound to those who percieve that 
> to be their
> > employment.
> >
> 
> That's assuming that the goal of said education is to produce 
> professional 
> programmers. I believe that everyone has something to gain from 
> learning what 
> software is really all about. Most will not rise to the level of 
> professional 
> (or even competent) programmer. Similary, most students taking 
> English 
> classes will never become successful novelists. Does that mean 
> all the others 
> are just doing busywork? I've always thought you a champion of 
> liberal 
> learning, don't all students deserve to have their intellectual 
> worlds 
> expanded to the extent possible?
> 
> --John
> 
> ps. That's really, really, my last post. Unless someone actually 
> wants to 
> discuss the substance of the arguments I've made earlier. If 
> challenged, I'll 
> probably take the bait...
> 
> -- 
> John M. Zelle, Ph.D. Wartburg College
> Professor of Computer Science Waverly, IA 
> john.zelle at wartburg.edu (319) 352-8360 
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