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Perhaps irrevocably prejudiced by Mr. Kay's decision to wittingly or
unwittingly assist Disney in their effort to become a force in education for
dollars, I for one feel little affinity with the Squeak community. And I
promise you that I am the furthest thing from a Free Software
fundamentalist, an anarchist, an anti-Globalist or an anti-Capitalist. It
is in fact because I believe I understand something about hardball business,
from the inside, that I found nothing adorable about this particular
arrangement.
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<big>From what I know I believe Disney don't have any more part to play
in Squeak and Alan Kay works in HP.<br>
I'll will try to get more info on this.<br>
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If you have a look at the croquet licence I would say it's very GPL to
me:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.opencroquet.org/Croquet_Technologies/license.html">http://www.opencroquet.org/Croquet_Technologies/license.html</a><br>
Then I'm not very afraid of what you discribe.<br>
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We have to understand the kind of power we are talking about. It is
generally acknowledged that Disney has had clear influence on US copyright
and trademark law and policy. Many feel, in detriment to policies that would
better benefit the common good.
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<big>I fully agree with you and I advise everybody to read "The future
of ideas" of Laurence Lessig.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lessig.org/blog/">http://www.lessig.org/blog/</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://creativecommons.org/">http://creativecommons.org/</a><br>
But can they succeed to control an emergent system ? It depends of all
of us and or capacity to organise :<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.eff.org/">http://www.eff.org/</a><br>
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Is the Squeak community actually surprised that there is someone like myself
out there with these sentiments? That, to me, would itself be surprising.
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<big>Like I said I'm not very much in. Like the song "I'm free like a
bird" and I like to evolve in my opinions and experinces.<br>
I'm following Squeakland, croquet and squeak-fr mailing liste </big><big>
(not squeak-dev anymore) </big><big>and I know few french Squeak good
fellows. I'll ask but I always try to avoid to fire community wars
(it's often a lost of time for the projects themselves). <br>
Otherwise I respect people/community who/which do (rather than talk of)
things and Alan Kay / Squeak/ Croquet belongs to them (even if I
desagree on important points to me and I expressed already that on
their list). <br>
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francois<br>
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