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<p>I think each of those platforms caters to different sets of
users.</p>
<p>It all depends on who you want to talk with.</p>
<p>I find that an IRC chat is nice to have for casual conversation.</p>
<p>For instance, if we had a website we could embed the chatroom
with the following iframe:</p>
<p><iframe
src=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=%23python-k12&uio=MTY9dHJ1ZSYyPXRydWUmOT10cnVlJjExPTI4Nwee">"http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=%23python-k12&uio=MTY9dHJ1ZSYyPXRydWUmOT10cnVlJjExPTI4Nwee"</a>
width="647" height="400"></iframe></p>
<p>Or one could reach it directly thru a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=%23python-k12&uio=MTY9dHJ1ZSYyPXRydWUmOT10cnVlJjExPTI4Nwee">link</a>.</p>
<p>More fancy clients are available as well as bridges.</p>
<p>I'm not in capacity to provide hosting for a hosted solution, but
what we have now is quite usable.</p>
<p>That said, I will take a look at Zulip, sounds pretty cool.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Sebastian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/05/18 13:21, Wes Turner wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CACfEFw-B-N4Usk2uwzA=5rKuz1tNbyXEZQvGii-iJ5dnMd5YdA@mail.gmail.com">#pythonK12
(without the dash) could be a hashtag, as well.
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<div>There was a discussion on the python-dev list awhile ago
about Slack, Gitter, Mattermost, and Zulip; which are all
HTTP-based chat solutions with mobile clients and serverside
logging.</div>
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<div>Python-dev chose to create a Zulip instance. Zulip was
initially created at Dropbox. [1]</div>
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<div>Slack, Gitter, Matter most, and Zulip all have free and paid
plans for hosted webchat with bots. Mattermost and Zulip are
open source and can be run on-premise.</div>
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<div>I think all of them support @mentions now; which, for IRC,
requires some IRC-fu and constantly idling with an IRC c lient
app that may or may not expose the IP address.</div>
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<div>With free hosted plans, serverside logging is limited but
better than directing new joins to the an IRC chan to the log
available over HTTP as HTML or /dcc.</div>
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<div>It may be even less likely that edu-sig users will IRC than
that python-dev users will IRC; YMMV.</div>
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<div>[1] <a
href="https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-April/152826.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-April/152826.html</a></div>
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<div>[1] <a
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#%21topic/dev-python/JyyOu5ypBqA"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/dev-python/JyyOu5ypBqA</a></div>
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<div>[1] <a
href="https://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.python.python-dev#query:list%3Aorg.python.python-dev%20zulip+page:1+mid:p2f37mkblhdoyxys+state:results"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.python.python-dev#query:list%3Aorg.python.python-dev%20zulip+page:1+mid:p2f37mkblhdoyxys+state:results</a></div>
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<div>> [Python-Dev] Introducing <a
href="http://python.zulipchat.com" moz-do-not-send="true">python.zulipchat.com</a></div>
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<div>> As an experiment we have gotten an instance of Zulip
running for Python's development at <a
href="https://python.zulipchat.com" moz-do-not-send="true">https://python.zulipchat.com</a>
(IOW this is for discussing the development *of* Python
only*)*. As Guido has put it you can view Zulip like
"hyper-interactive email" as we have streams corresponding to
equivalent mailing lists and all messages fall under a topic
so conversations are on-topic.</div>
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On Sunday, May 13, 2018, Kevin Cole <<a
href="mailto:kevin.cole@novawebdevelopment.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">kevin.cole@novawebdevelopment.org</a>>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:40 PM,
Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I'm in! Actually I've been at that IRC channel
for the past couple of days and haven't seen
anyone come by.</p>
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class="gmail_default">By "that IRC channel" are you
referring to <u><b>#python-k12</b></u>?</div>
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by "what IRC channel" -- i.e. the name not the details
of how it was implemented.</div>
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