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    <p>Sure, take the parts that seem useful.  Share yours, maybe I'll
      find new things to use! :)</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/17 6:18 PM, Don Sheu wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">That's a good list. May I steal aspects of it with
        attribution? 
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        <div>I am very transparent about myself and personal stuff. I
          really hope that PuPPy can be like your group Boston Python or
          Brian's group ChiPy, where association in the group can
          inspire folks to contribute meaningfully to the global Python
          community and build the tools that will bring about a future
          we all want to live in. </div>
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        <div>The personal stuff sharing ship sailed long ago. By being
          frank, clear, and open I hope that I can help our members find
          their motivation. Mortality is a motivator. Many of our
          members are young and running out of time is a fantasy. </div>
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        <div>There's a reality to the finite availability of time
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Ned
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Don, I'm
            sorry to hear about your mother's struggle.  You didn't ask
            for advice on this, but: I don't know how close-knit PuPPy
            is, or how personal you have been with them over email in
            the past.  I wouldn't be that detailed about my personal
            life in an email to Boston Python members.  Maybe I
            misunderstood what you were going to write.<br>
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            About getting volunteers: it is difficult.  I sometimes send
            out a call for help, but it doesn't usually yield results.
            Sometimes I just pick someone and propose that they do
            something. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.<br>
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            I've tried to be clear an explicit about what there is to
            do: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-5UNh5NB1UuVMiLXBqkfyVcgqltksSf_HDchZXp4iCk"
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            Let me know if you come up with anything else...<span
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              On 12/20/17 1:48 PM, Don Sheu wrote:<br>
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                Working on a holiday-ish message for my PuPPy members. I
                do want to frame<br>
                my mother's stage 4 lung cancer diagnosis with something
                positive about<br>
                activating members as volunteers and organizers of our
                group.<br>
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                Tough trying to bridge the fact that yesterday was
                likely my mother's last<br>
                birthday with a message that Rome rose from the ashes of
                Troy.<br>
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                Before PuPPy, in Seattle there was SeaPIG. A few years
                back, I remember<br>
                BayPiggies almost stopped functioning as a community
                user group. I'm always<br>
                anxious about making sure my group continues after I'm
                no longer active or<br>
                I'm not able to contribute any longer.<br>
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                Wonder if anybody has tactics and strategies to share
                about activating<br>
                members to volunteers and organizers.<br>
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