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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I do a lot of Python programming and to date have
used EditPlus at my editor, through habit rather than anything else. I
have had a quick look at the IDLE file editor in the Windows shell and I have
the following comments:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. Confusion between tabs and spaces<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I feel that IDLE should work only in tabs and not try
converting from tabs to spaces and back again. If I edit a file that was
edited in a different editor (e.g. EditPlus), the left and right arrows move
one tab at a time. If I press enter to insert a new line that is not
after an ‘if’ statement, this behaviour continues, as it should.
However a new line after an ‘if’ statement appears to add an extra
tab (- a nice feature) but as four spaces, not as a tab, even though the
default tab setting is 8 spaces. This behaviour appears to be independent
of the Toggle Tabs setting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This behaviour basically makes IDLE impossible to use
as each line will have a different tab arrangement. I understand that
using the Tabify / Untabify options will fix this up but this is hardly
satisfactory. Please tell me if there is a way to make the file editor
function in a more acceptable way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. Displaying non-printing (tabs,
spaces and end-of-line) characters<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there some way to do this ? I have gone
thorugh all the settings without success.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3. Wordwrap<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How do I turn this on, to wrap at the window edge?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>4. Code Context<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A great feature, but can it be synchronised with the
cursor position rather than the top of the page? Also could the window
expand or scroll to show all levels of the current loops, not limited to 3
levels?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>5. Class Browser<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Another great feature, but this would be more useful
if it could be docked in the edit window rather than floating free.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I look forward to any comments and/or assistance that
can be offered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
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