<div dir="ltr">Hi guys, nice to see some traffic here again :)<br><br>VIDLE sounds quite like my IDLE-Spoon fork of IDLE, at least from the "features" list on its page (<a href="http://vpython.org/vidle/index.html">http://vpython.org/vidle/index.html</a>). Is VIDLE is compatible with Python 3.x? IDLE-Spoon is not (yet).<br>
<br>IDLE-Spoon:<br><a href="http://bitbucket.org/taleinat/idle-spoon/wiki/Home">http://bitbucket.org/taleinat/idle-spoon/wiki/Home</a><br><br>I haven't done any work on IDLE-Spoon lately due to lack of perceived interest. If there is some interest, I'd gladly help in merging VIDLE's changes with those in IDLE-Spoon and porting these to Python 2.7 and 3.x.<br>
<br>I also have some experience getting changes to IDLE into the mainstream version, which usually mostly involves getting the attention of whoever is currently the official IDLE maintainer (this used to be Kurt B. Kaiser, a.k.a. KBK for quite a few years).<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bruce Sherwood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu">Bruce_Sherwood@ncsu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Martin Löwis was a co-mentor with me on Polo's project, and Löwis, who is one of the Python developers, said he would make sure that Polo's improvements would go into Python. However, I'll emphasize that I know absolutely nothing about how Python politics works, and absolutely nothing about a possible schedule for the needed update to happen. So the simple answer to your question is no, I have no idea how to work with the Python developers to make this happen, beyond my involvement with last summer's project.<br>
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I should say that the improvements to IDLE were triggered by David Scherer, who found that in recent years some important aspects of the big changes he made to IDLE in the year 2000 had gotten lost or diluted, and he addressed some of the most serious issues some months before Guilherme Polo began work on IDLE last summer. Polo built on this work and did an excellent job of addressing some other issues as well, Scherer, Polo, and I agreed to call the improved version VIDLE to make it clear that it is "unofficial" and different, but we all hope fervently that VIDLE turns into regular IDLE.<br>
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My own involvement in this was due to the use of IDLE by thousands of college freshmen who use VPython for computational modeling in the context of the Matter & Interactions physics curriculum developed by Ruth Chabay and me (<a href="http://matterandinteractions.org" target="_blank">matterandinteractions.org</a>). Problems with IDLE were getting in the way of our instructional goals.<br>
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On 4/1/2010 12:41 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:<br>
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On 1 Apr, 2010, at 18:18, Bruce Sherwood wrote:<br>
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Last summer in the context of the Google Summer of Code a Brazilian student named Guilherme Polo fixed a large number of problems with IDLE. Supposedly this will some day end up in the standard Python release.<br>
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Are you (as one of the vpython maintainers) working with the python developers to make this happen?<br>
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In the meantime, you can get this version, called VIDLE for now, at <a href="http://vpython.org" target="_blank">vpython.org</a>. Perhaps it will solve your problems.<br>
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On 3/9/2010 7:25 AM, Steffen Møller-Larsen wrote:<br>
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Hi, all<br>
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I have recently downloaded and installed IDLE 2.6.4 via an Activepython distribution. I find that IDLE crashes over and over again causing it to freeze completely. It is a real pain if the work has not been saved. I am running it on a fairly new iMac running OSX 10.6.2. Is this a common problem for this version? Thank you in advance.<br>
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Respectfully<br>
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Steffen Møller-Larsen<br>
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