<div dir="ltr">There are chat rooms for organizations and repos<div><br></div><div>- only members of an organization can join the org room</div><div>- public repo rooms are public</div><div>- private repo rooms are private</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think there are two things that we use on HipChat that gitter doesn't do:</div><div><br></div><div>- guest access (GitHub login is required even for public rooms)</div><div>- push/email notifications for mentions when idle (it supports desktop, but not offline notifications)</div>
<div><br></div><div>For the most part, I think Gitter seems a lot better than HipChat, especially for guests (at least those with GitHub accounts). I am not especially fond of HipChat, and the guest experience is pretty horrendous (no native app, no history, frequent crashes, etc.), so I wouldn't mind giving something else a try.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-MinRK<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Aaron Meurer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asmeurer@gmail.com" target="_blank">asmeurer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Gitter does support direct messages. I don't know if it supports private rooms.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Aaron Meurer<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Kluyver <<a href="mailto:takowl@gmail.com">takowl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 10 March 2014 13:02, Aaron Meurer <<a href="mailto:asmeurer@gmail.com">asmeurer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I didn't know you guys were dropping 2.6 support so soon.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Yep. We've been fairly aggressive with Python version requirements for a<br>
> while - we were one of the first projects to drop 2.5 support as well. We<br>
> anticipate we'll get some bug reports about it, but we think it's worth it<br>
> to be able to use 2.7 features reliably. It's so easy to forget what 2.6<br>
> didn't have, which is why we had to release 1.2.1 soon after 1.2.0.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Regarding hipchat, I hate to say it, but nobody uses it because it<br>
>> sucks. I personally hate it every time I try to use it. The interface<br>
>> is just the worst for people who are not registered. You guys should<br>
>> take a look at <a href="http://gitter.im" target="_blank">gitter.im</a>. It integrates with GitHub, it's free, and it<br>
>> has nice things like backlogs on chats for everyone.<br>
><br>
><br>
> We do actually see a couple of questions on Hipchat most days - probably<br>
> more traffic than the mailing list - but I don't think most of the people<br>
> using the help chat room would have heard about the survey. Gitter does look<br>
> interesting, though.<br>
><br>
> Brian: I think Gitter has private rooms if you associate it with private<br>
> repos. People who can see the repo see the chat room. I don't know about<br>
> direct messaging.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> I'm a little surprised about the academia vs. industry usage. I<br>
>> suspect there were just more respondents from the academic side than<br>
>> from industry.<br>
><br>
><br>
> That's quite possible. The results are probably also biased towards English<br>
> speakers, early adopters, and technically proficient users. Getting a<br>
> representative sample is pretty tricky. But I think the results give us some<br>
> ballpark figures.<br>
><br>
> Thomas<br>
><br>
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