<div dir="ltr"><div class="markdown-here-wrapper" style><p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Doug Blank <<a href="mailto:doug.blank@gmail.com" target="_blank">doug.blank@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Kluyver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:takowl@gmail.com" target="_blank">takowl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<br></span></div><span>Does anyone want to argue for a different mime type before we declare application/x-ipynb+json the victor?<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Before you wrote this, I would have guessed that the filename extensions on notebooks would probably be changed to something more generic. Thinking that you are going to also attach those 5 letters to the mime-type makes me wonder. So, let me make a couple of points, and try to sway y'all in a more generic naming scheme.</div>
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<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">We wouldn’t have picked .ipynb if we were choosing now, but the cost of changing one letter seems to significantly outweigh the benefits. For a slightly facetious argument: In Latin, there is no distinction between I and J, so technically the name would be IUPYTER, so a <code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)">.ipynb</code> extension still makes sense for project iupyter :)</p>
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<div><br></div><div>An aside, I think you could leave the +json off. The container indication is useful on svg+xml to remind people that it is an image, and also xml. Thus, many browsers can handle it directly. I don't think it makes sense on a general format, unless you are considering adding application/...+xml (or some other container format) at some point, too. Knowing that a format is json doesn't get you much.</div>
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<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">It doesn’t get you much, but we found a number of examples following the convention on the <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml">IANA registry</a>, and it seems helpful to note that it is indeed plain JSON, and the notebook just describes the <em>structure</em> of that JSON.</p>
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<div><br></div><div>Jupyter will soon be the name that represents the big picture. Why wouldn't the mime-type also represent the big picture? Also, there isn't any other Jupyter file format, so why not just make it application/x-jupyter ? As for file extension, consider the big picture, too. Maybe: .jnb, .jup, or even .jupyter.</div>
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<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">I think we would keep notebook as part of it, so honestly the most likely candidate is <code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)">.jpynb</code>, which is almost identical to the existing <code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;display:inline;background-color:rgb(248,248,248)">.ipynb</code>. There could easily be other non-notebook Jupyter-related files in the future.</p>
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<div><br></div><div>Anyway, thanks for asking for arguments; always willing to oblige :)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><p></p></div><p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important"></p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">Thanks!</p>
<p style="margin:1.2em 0px!important">-MinRK</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span></span><div><span><br>1 <a href="http://www.iana.org/form/media-types" target="_blank">http://www.iana.org/form/media-types</a><br>
<br></span></div><div><span>Thanks,<br></span></div><div><span>Thomas<br></span></div></div>
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