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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">OK, thanks.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think that makes a little bit more sense of the ipywidgets code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My reading of it is this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The notebook creates a widget in the kernel. It is then expected that what that widget do is send a message to the front end where
the message looks like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Comm_id: ‘uuid’,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">comms:{}<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> method:”custom”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The comms dictionary consists of the target_name and something else that I can’t figure out. Sorry my python skills aren’t great to
be able to work out what the code in CommInfo does, and since no widgets are created initially Wireshark doesn’t shed any light on the format of that part as it’s empty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">After sending that message it should then close.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So it looks like completely ignoring the message wouldn’t be ideal as it’s going to leave stuff lying around in the notebook waiting
for the response. But since we don’t actually support widgets, we can just return a message as above, with an empty comms{} dictionary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> IPython-dev [mailto:ipython-dev-bounces@scipy.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Frederic<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 November 2015 18:19<br>
<b>To:</b> IPython developers list <ipython-dev@scipy.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPython-dev] Can I safely ignore "comm_open" for ipywidgets.CommInfo/ipython.widgets<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you don't plan on implementing ipywidget support in your kernel, you shouldn't have to worry about implementing that. It's a channel used to determine what widget comms existing in the backend in order to reconnect them to the front
end on page refresh.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding "target_name key is not found on the receiving side", I suggest you read the comm spec here: <a href="https://github.com/ipython/ipython/wiki/IPEP-21%3A-Widget-Messages">https://github.com/ipython/ipython/wiki/IPEP-21%3A-Widget-Messages</a>
. Basically comm handlers are registered by target_name, that's how the comms are matched accross the front end / back end boundary.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Tom Quarendon <<a href="mailto:tom.quarendon@teamwpc.co.uk" target="_blank">tom.quarendon@teamwpc.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When we run our kernel from a notebook the kernel gets a “comm_open” request with widget class “ipywidgets.CommInfo”, target name “ipython.widgets”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What do we do with this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Can I safely ignore this message and any other comm_open messages? Should I respond to any comm_open messages with a comm_close as suggested in the docs (“If the target_name key
is not found on the receiving side, then it should immediately reply with a comm_close message to avoid an inconsistent state.” But it’s unclear what the “target_name key is not found on the receiving side” means).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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