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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course, it precludes searching by
object, if the object’s type is string. ;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d have stuck to msdn(Type),
myself, but that doesn’t detract from any intrinsic coolness..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Keith J. Farmer</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peli de Halleux (PELI)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 31 October 2005
13:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IronPython] Need
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Slick.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com On Behalf Of Shawn Farkas<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 31, 2005
12:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IronPython] Need
help in learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pretty easily done with a quick script:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>import sys</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>sys.LoadAssemblyByName("System")</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>from System import String</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>from System.Diagnostics import Process</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>def msdn(query):</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
if query.GetType() == String.Empty.GetType():</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
Process.Start("http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?View=msdn&st=b&c=4&s=1&swc=4&qu="
+ query)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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else:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
msdn(query.GetType().FullName)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Will launch the MSDN help page in the
user’s default browser. I’m not sure if there’s a nicer
way to determine if the parameter is a string or not, and this also relies on
the fact that the browser will normalize the query string (if it contains a
space for instance) … but will break if you query contains the &
character. However, for debugging purposes, if you throw that in your site.py
you’re all set </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Shawn</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peli de Halleux (PELI)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 31, 2005
11:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IronPython] Need
help in learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Following up the improving the experience for new .Net
users, IronPython could provide specialized commands to search msdn and pop up
a internet window. For example something like</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> msdn "System.Security.Cryptography.SignedXml.ComputeSignature"
// search based on literal</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> msdn foo // search
based on the object type</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>________________________________________</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From: users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com On Behalf Of Shawn
Farkas</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:11 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>To: Discussion of IronPython</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Subject: Re: [IronPython] Need help in learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sure -- you just have to go to the MSDN docs for the class
you're using. For instance, if you want to use the
System.Security.Cryptography.SignedXml.ComputeSignature() method, you would go
to the MSDN documentation for "SignedXml Class" (<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfsystemsecuritycryptographyxmlsignedxmlclasstopic.asp"
target="_BLANKー,듨〝瘐,彔,㜘-㜈-듶〝ழѺ㲄Ǭ㜘-㜨-">http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfsystemsecuritycryptographyxmlsignedxmlclasstopic.asp</a>)
and then at the bottom of the page, in the requirements section is:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Assembly: System.Security (in System.Security.dll)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>-Shawn</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>-----Original Message-----</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From: users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [<a
href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com">mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com</a>]
On Behalf Of Mayfield, Weatherby</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:06 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>To: Discussion of IronPython</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Subject: Re: [IronPython] Need help in learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am in a similar boat with regard to knowing some Python
but very</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>little .NET. I'm very intrigued by the ability to
access the .NET</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>framework from Python, but I know so little about .NET I'm
not even sure</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>what question(s) to ask.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>>From what I have seen in the examples and archives, it
looks like there</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>are two basic ways to get at the .NET code:
LoadAssemblyByName and</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>LoadAssemblyFromFile. My problem is that I don't know
how to correlate</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>between the assembly names or file names and the .NET APIs I
read about.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Is there somewhere I can look on MSDN or in a manual or in
Visual Studio</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>that will tell me if I want to access 'X' .NET feature then
the assembly</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>name is 'Y' or the file name is 'Z'? I think I must be
searching for</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the wrong terms or something.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Web Mayfield</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:47 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Subject: [IronPython] Need help in learning.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am familiar with python but not with .NET. I also do not
know other</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>programming languages like VB or C# so it is not that easy
to follow</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>tutorials. What should be my first step to learn to use
ironpython?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thank You.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>_______________________________________________</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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