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color:#1F497D'>Yeah, in general we don&#8217;t want to extend the language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com
[mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristof
Wagemans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 30, 2006 9:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Discussion of IronPython'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Python console control for WPF<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I was actually thinking of System.Decimal. I can now create one
with Decimal(5), but it would be more convenient if I could just add a single
character or so to the number. You probably wouldn&#8217;t like extending the Python
language for this, I would guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dino Viehland<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday 30 June 2006 18:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Python console control for WPF</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think we can keep FilterStackFrame public and like you suggest
make it just take an Exception object.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think we&#8217;re going to make the switch from SetGlobal taking a
SymbolId to using a string, but until we do that you&#8217;re right to use
SymbolTable.StringToId.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For double you should ensure there&#8217;s a decimal point in the
number, or you could always do float(1) which will give you the floating point
version &#8211; although the decimal point is preferred (in C# you can do 1D for
this).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For Decimal are you referring to System.Decimal or Python&#8217;s
decimal type in the standard library?&nbsp; I assume it&#8217;s the Python one, and I
don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s any special syntax for that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com
[mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristof
Wagemans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 30, 2006 7:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Discussion of IronPython'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Python console control for WPF<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks for the info about directly calling a Python method. This is
definitively going to be useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Maybe someone else has answers for my other questions about
FilterStackFrame, no overload with name for SetGlobal and format specifiers for
double and decimal</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Shri Borde<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday 28 June 2006 0:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Python console control for WPF</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi Kristof,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>You can call a Python method as such.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>public</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> <span style='color:blue'>delegate</span> <span
style='color:blue'>int</span> <span style='color:teal'>IntIntDelegate</span>(<span
style='color:blue'>int</span> arg);</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>engine.Execute(<span style='color:maroon'>&quot;def
IntIntMethod(a): return a * 100&quot;</span>);</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:teal'>IntIntDelegate</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> d = engine.Evaluate&lt;<span
style='color:teal'>IntIntDelegate</span>&gt;(<span style='color:maroon'>&quot;IntIntMethod&quot;</span>);</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Console.WriteLine(d(2)); // This prints &#8220;200&#8221;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I have opened this bug <a
href="http://www.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython&amp;WorkItemId=632">http://www.codeplex.com/WorkItem/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython&amp;WorkItemId=632</a>
&nbsp;to track the issue with </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>setdefaultencoding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Shri</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>________</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:navy'><a
href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=6D4754DE-11F0-45DF-8B78-DC1B43134038">Do
you want to help develop Dynamic languages on CLR?</a> </span><span
style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:white'>(<a
href="http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=6D4754DE-11F0-45DF-8B78-DC1B43134038">http://members.microsoft.com/careers/search/details.aspx?JobID=6D4754DE-11F0-45DF-8B78-DC1B43134038</a>)</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kristof Wagemans<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> users@lists.ironpython.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IronPython] Python console control for WPF</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;ve
been experimenting with a Python console control for WPF. The improvements made
for IronPython beta 8 make this a lot easier thanks to several new functions on
the PythonEngine: ExecuteToConsole, FormatException and ParseInteractiveInput.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>One
of the things I need to do to communicate with a C# application is to change
the default encoding to receive non-ascii characters. For this I execute
several commands after the PythonEngine instance is created.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
import sys</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
sys.setdefaultencoding('utf_16_le')</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
del(sys)</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Setting
the default encoding seems like a good candidate for the options you can pass
to the engine while creating a new instance. It would also be easier if I could
get at the options through a PythonEngine instance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
hope you&#8217;re not going to remove the FilterStackFrame delegate from the
FormatException method as the comment seems to indicate. I think it&#8217;s very
useful to filter my own C# application from the stack trace. Maybe you could
add an overload with just the Exception and FilterStackFrame?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To
set a variable in the PythonEngine you need to use SetGlobal with a SymbolId.
Am I correct to use SymbolTable.StringToId(name) to generate a SymbolId? It
used to be easier with just a string to specify the name.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>A
useful enhancement for the PythonEngine might be if there was a way to directly
call a Python function loaded in the engine and pass parameters to it and get
the return value. You could also support out parameters similar to calling a
method through reflection.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If
you want to specify that a number is a long you can write 10L. Is there a way
to specify that a number is a double or a decimal?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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