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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The CLR names are still available on __builtins__ (but strangely
not on __builtin__ when it is imported). As a somewhat ugly workaround, you can
copy the names from __builtins__ into your local namespace:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&nbsp; File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##6<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>NameError: name 'HasAttr' not defined<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; for attr in dir(__builtins__):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;locals()[attr] = getattr(__builtins__, attr)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&lt;built-in function HasAttr&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>You can also copy them into globals() if you want them available
everywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>--Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lee Culver<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 14, 2006 9:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Regression with Beta9?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>What about the previous email?&nbsp; I currently cannot access any
IronPython specific constructs which are in the __builtins__ module, or any
other module:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp; File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##16<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>NameError: name 'HasAttr' not defined<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; __builtins__.HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&lt;built-in function HasAttr&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Other modules have similar problems, such as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import thread<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; thread.StartNewThread<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp; File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##19<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'StartNewThread'<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Whereas StartNewThread was a .Net style alias for
thread.start_new_thread in IronPython 8.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>-Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com
[mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Maly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Regression with Beta9?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Yep, we have entered the ToString issue, but your operator issue is
a new one. I&#8217;ve filed it in CodePlex as work item 939<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lee Culver<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Regression with Beta9?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>And another one&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>IronPython 1.0.60712 (Beta) on .NET 2.0.50727.42<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt;
clr.AddReferenceByPartialName(&quot;Microsoft.DirectX&quot;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; from Microsoft import DirectX<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v = DirectX.Vector3(1, 2, 3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v * 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>...]&gt;osoft.DirectX.Vector3 object at 0x000000000000002C [Z : 6<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v * 2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp; File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##30<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'Vector3' and 'float'<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Whereas this worked fine in IronPython8 (and indeed the
DirectX.Vector3 class supports a multiplication with floats):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>IronPython 1.0.2376 (Beta) on .NET 2.0.50727.42<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt;
clr.AddReferenceByPartialName(&quot;Microsoft.DirectX&quot;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v = DirectX.Vector3(1, 2, 3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&nbsp; File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##13<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>NameError: name 'DirectX' not defined<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; from Microsoft import DirectX<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v = DirectX.Vector3(1, 2, 3)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v * 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Z : 6<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Y : 4<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>X : 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; v * 2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Z : 6.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Y : 4.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>X : 2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I think the ToString issue has already been reported&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>-Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lee Culver<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IronPython] Regression with Beta9?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This
seems to not work anymore:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&gt;&gt;&gt;
import clr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&gt;&gt;&gt;
HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Traceback
(most recent call last):<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;
File , line 0, in &lt;stdin&gt;##9<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>NameError:
name 'HasAttr' not defined<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Whereas
under Beta8 it worked fine&#8230;&nbsp; Is this intentional?&nbsp; If so, this seems
a bit weird that it&#8217;s still in __builtins__:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&gt;&gt;&gt;
__builtins__.HasAttr<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&lt;built-in
function HasAttr&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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