<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/12 Jonathan Slenders <<a href="mailto:jonathan@slenders.be">jonathan@slenders.be</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/12 Tim Roberts <<a href="mailto:timr@probo.com" target="_blank">timr@probo.com</a>>:<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:09:01 +0200, "Jonathan Slenders" <<a href="mailto:jonathan@slenders.be" target="_blank">jonathan@slenders.be</a>><br>
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I'm working on a web application framework in Python, and just uploaded the<br>
first release.<br>
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Now I quote from my own README. What it actually does is:<br>
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- Provide an easy way to embed Python code into HTML, similar to PHP, JPS<br>
and other server side languages.<br>
- Make reusing HTML very easy. It uses concepts like master pages and<br>
including of other pages as a control. This is a very rich template<br>
mechanism.<br></div>
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May I ask what motivated you to create this from scratch? There are a number of excellent Python web application frameworks available today, several of which have syntax and functionality almost exactly like yours.<br>
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I'm not trying to say you shouldn't do such a thing, but people in the world at large already complain there are too many web frameworks for Python. I'm just wondering why you didn't choose one of the existing frameworks that was close to what you wanted, and become a contributor to that. Was there something you thought was fundamentally missing from the others?<br>
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</font></blockquote></div></div><br>Dear Tim,<br><br>You should know that I've been working on this project for about a year and a half. Apart from Django, I didn't know even one framework that I liked during this development. (Actually, at the start I didn't know about Django, later on I did and realised it was good but had my reasons not to use it. I'm not going to discuss it now.)<br>
<br>All that time it's just been the back-end for my personal web site - I had never the intend to publish it. But the framework became gradually more and more extensive and since a half year I realized that it was well designed and could compete with others.<br>
Some of my best friends are very active Django users, and when I showed my framework, they also said that it was pretty similar to that.<br><br>If you know that many Python web frameworks, I'd really like to hear about it. (I've seen several, yes, but some were very outdated and and not maintained anymore)<br>
Because I don't know much of them it's hard to say what I missed. But what I wanted was:<br><br>- query parameters should be available as variables, but they shouldn't be unpacked by default as was in PHP years ago (I want to declare the variables that should be accepted)<br>
- It *should* work perfectly well without database. (at the start of this project, my hosting had no database)<br>- code should be reusable with master pages like ASP.net does<br>- when a master page is stored in another directory than the url's ("<a href=...".) should be rewritten in a way so that they are always reusable to the page from where the are generated<br>
- form input fields should be available as objects.<br><br>Again, I didn't know any framework that does all this. Django needs a database (not?) and the others which I found were crap, sorry....<br><font color="#888888"><br>
Jonathan<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br>OK, I have to take my word back. Django can run without database. But still, it's totally different, it has a custom template language, while I'm actually using Python itself als template language. Pylons -- what I just found -- also seems to have a custom (and thus limited) template language. I think this is unique, isn't it?<br>
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