<div dir="ltr">Hi Benn,<br><br>I haven't created the codeplex project to start coding ASAP. My idea was to use the codeplex wiki to gather requirements for what a good DLR IDE (name it editor if you like). Actually I have first created a pbwiki for this, but then realized that codeplex's wiki can be used as well, so no need to have two different places for information about the same project. <br>
<br>My idea about the project is have something similar to TextMate, but web based. Naming it IDE doesn't imply that it should be huge as VS, does it? I just find it more funny and easy to pronanunce dlride (DLR IDE) that can pronanunce (D L ride) - saying that your are riding (on) dynamic languges.<br>
<br>I don't want this to be my IDE. I just want it to be ours - from the community to the community. That's it.<br><br>Have fun,<br>Stefan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/25 Ben Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben2004uk@googlemail.com">ben2004uk@googlemail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Stefan,<br>
<br>
An interesting approach - you want people to collaborate so you start<br>
a new project?<br>
<br>
When writing the editors, people have lots of different reasons for<br>
doing so - not everyone wants to create an IDE, some people just want<br>
to create a cool sample to learn Silverlight \ DLR which they then<br>
release. Some people don't want to collaborate with others, that is<br>
not their aim and you can't blame people for that.<br>
<br>
Personally, since releasing IronEditor I have had loads of people<br>
sending me sample code, feature requests, and some other really really<br>
interesting stuff. People are collaborating behind the scenes to<br>
improve the application, personally I have a list of other people I<br>
want to contact about improving the application and working together.<br>
Same with Michael Foord's TryPython, lots of people provided feedback<br>
after he went live. Collaboration isn't just code.<br>
<br>
Good luck with your IDE, but open source projects are not as easy as<br>
they sound, I look forward to seeing how it goes. I tried to make<br>
this point on your post, however your spam filter wasn't displaying<br>
any images - makes it difficult to make a comment then :)<br>
<br>
On a side note, if people want to help with IronEditor - contact me<br>
offline. Thanks for everyone who has already.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
<a href="http://Blog.BenHall.me.uk" target="_blank">Blog.BenHall.me.uk</a><br>
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Stefan Dobrev <<a href="mailto:stefan.dobrev@gmail.com">stefan.dobrev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Wouldn't be nice if we all create a DLR IDE. I have being thinking for this<br>
> for quite some times recently. As usually happens someone else also has been<br>
> thinking of this and actually blogged about it here. Saying:<br>
> ---<br>
><br>
> So what's my point? I think all of these projects are great and kudos to<br>
> the people that built them. It takes a lot of time and effort above and<br>
> beyond just regular work hours. I have been there myself, my hats off to you<br>
> folks! But, there are 8 versions of the interactive console and a few<br>
> versions of a basic code editor. I know it may be a dream, but it would be<br>
> great to collaborate with these people and write out a simple set of<br>
> requirements for what a great DLR console and code editor would be. And<br>
> then as a virtual team, implement it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> After all, to a large degree, it will be how well supported the language is<br>
> from a tools perspective that will really determine the rate of adoption.<br>
> And right now, the tools (or IDE) experience for Dynamic Languages on .NET<br>
> is severely lacking to the point of having several people independently<br>
> developing their own tooling. In this post I only pointed out a handful of<br>
> these tools and I know there are others, but I was really targeting<br>
> web-based IDE's. Maybe that is an opportunity? Or is it a pipe dream?<br>
><br>
> ---<br>
><br>
> So let's come together and build a difference.<br>
><br>
> I have made the first step and created a project on codeplex -<br>
> <a href="http://codeplex.com/dlride" target="_blank">http://codeplex.com/dlride</a>. I have also written some basic requirements for<br>
> the project in the wiki. Let we all collaborate on them.<br>
><br>
> For everyone who want to take a part, please feel free to contact me, so I<br>
> can give you permissions for the project on codeplex.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Stefan<br>
><br>
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