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color:#1F497D'>Will do, but you can just keep an eye on <a
href="http://github.com/jschementi/agdlr">http://github.com/jschementi/agdlr</a>
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users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kenneth Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of IronPython<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IronPython] Python Standard Library in IronPython<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Jimmy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> I'm really interested in being
able to load python modules from isolated storage, please let me know how this
works out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ken<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Jimmy Schementi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Getting on this thread late ...<br>
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I've been working on a way to load Python/Ruby libraries from either a external
XAP file or Isolated Storage. I should have something checked into
github.com/jschementi/agdlr shortly.<br>
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Kenneth: wrappers around the Python stdlib out definitely be interesting,
though possibly very difficult to produce the exact behaviors of the python
libraries. .NET APIs don't map exactly to Python's, or Ruby's, so there will
always be special-casing, and those can be the hardest to detect. I'd much
rather find a good way to load external libraries once and only once. But, I'm
not going to be the guy to stop you. =)<br>
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~js<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>From: <a href="mailto:users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com">users-bounces@lists.ironpython.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:users-">mailto:users-</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Behalf Of Dan Eloff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:06 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>To: Discussion of IronPython<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [IronPython] Python Standard Library in
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Kenneth Miller <<a
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<p class=MsoNormal> Thanks for the encouragement, it's much
appreciated. If you don't<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>discussing off the list, I'd love to ask you some questions
about<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>silverlight and see what you're doing with it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Nothing I'm working on is top secret. Since January I've
been working<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>full time on a massively multiplayer turn-based strategy
game.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Initially I was using html/ajax for the client and
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<p class=MsoNormal>the backend. In May I discovered the silverlight 2 beta,
grabbed an<o:p></o:p></p>
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was a<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>gamble that set me back, but it's paying off now. Having
Python on<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>server and client means I can share code, and I can very
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<p class=MsoNormal>client over HTTP. This makes new things possible. For
example, at<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>startup I send 100K of binary data to the client, that's the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The real product is not the game itself, but the game engine
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<p class=MsoNormal>platform for creating other games. I already have a group of
fans very<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>through on their plans it could be more visually impressive
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