[Mailman-Developers] [gpg] encrypted list management plug-in

[efkin]

On 11/11/2015 09:28 AM, Stefan Schlott wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> from calafou hacklab & friends we wanted to reimplement schleuder in
>> python. speaking and speaking we arrived at the conclusion that maybe
>> writing a plug-in for Mailman 3 could be a good solution: we contribute
>> to a great project and we have encrypt mailing list for hacktivist people.
> 
> imho a good idea. afaik is Schleuder undergoing a "v2 rewrite" - I have
> the feeling they discovered  it's not that easy to write a mailinglist
> manager (even without encryption) ;-)
> 
> 
>> first and obvious question: is there already an ongoing effort to
>> achieve gpg encryption that we could join?
> 
> I tried to do that ~10 years ago. I tried to implement an addition to
> the pipeline chain. The patch was further maintained by Joost van
> Baal-Ilic, who reverted the pipeline approach and made it a direct patch
> for Mailman. As far as I can tell, the project is resting (I haven't
> checked for a long time, though).

wow 10 years ago!  can u give me a link to the project?
so as far i understood by the archive,  recurrently in time somebody
appears saying that he/she 's gonna develop this feature. but there was
this funny answer that said "this feature may be implmented in  mailman
3". so maybe we are at the right moment in the right place :)

> imho the pipeline chain approach is the preferable approach. I remember
> I still had to do some minor patches at the Mailman core because some
> operations weren't doable otherwise (plus the configuration settings).
> Unfortunately, I haven't had time to have a closer look at Mailman 3, so
> I can't tell if things have become easier there.
> 
> 
>> * do we really need to submit a merge request to the core instead of
>> doing an optional debian package?
> 
> My personal recommendation would be: Stick to separate modules (i.e. the
> pipeline approach) as long as possible, this should make things easier
> to maintain:
> 
> * the whole encryption stuff is a lot more tricky than one might think
> at first sight
> * you don't want to add instability for the majority (unfortunately) of
> users who don't want to use any encryption on their mailing list
> 

so, as far as i understood, your proposal is actually to write separate
modules that import actually existing modules and add functionality over
them?

it seems reasonable to me...



> Good luck, I'd love to see someone picking up that usecase!

thx.

> Stefan.

efkin.

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