[Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many "Uncaught.."
maechler at stat.math.ethz.ch
Wed Mar 12 16:12:25 CET 2003
>>>>> "John" == John DeCarlo <jdecarlo at mitre.org>
>>>>> on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:53 -0500 writes:
John> Have you read through these messages?
yes, (of course)!
John> Some of the ones I get include "out of office"
John> messages or other auto-generated messages that aren't
John> really "bounce" messages. I.e., they don't indicate a
John> problem delivering the mail.
John> My theory is that when I have time I will try and filter out the most
John> common ones with procmail or the like.
John> But you certainly don't want someone's account
John> disabled because of some of these messages.
But here I give an example of one where I think mailman should
have figured it out:
From: MAILER-DAEMON at guppy.vub.ac.be (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
To: <r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch>
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:45 +0100 (MET)
The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:44 +0100 (MET)
from hypatia.ethz.ch [184.108.40.206]
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>
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... while talking to akasolvr.vub.ac.be.:
>>> RCPT To:<mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>
<<< 553 <mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>... User mathie.roelants unknown at vub.ac.be
550 <mathie.roelants at vub.ac.be>... User unknown
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John> Martin Maechler wrote:
>> We have upgraded to 2.1.1 about 2 weeks ago.
>> We have about 20 mailing lists, totalling about 70-100 messages
>> a day -- although mainly from one 1-3 lists.
>> I've been getting half a dozen "Uncaught bounce notification"
>> messages a day, and had been ignoring them more or less --
>> hoping mailman would somehow do things automagically.
>> Now that I've read the related info more carefully, I realize
>> these are just the bounces that mailman is *not* able to deal
>> with automatically.
>> I've looked at some and really wondered _why_ mailman couldn't
>> figure out the E-mail address that bounced when it looked very
>> obvious to the human eye.
>> - Hints?
>> - To whom could I forward examples of these?
John> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
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