[Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x
brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Sun Apr 30 05:59:05 CEST 2006
At 7:48 PM -0700 2006-04-29, Allan Hansen wrote:
> I agree that the Server Admin interface for Mailman is limited and
> too buggy to be of serious use. It can, however, allow someone new to the
> OS set up Mailman lists with not much ado, which was the situation at
> hand, Brad. Installing Mailman and other attendant server tools (in
> particular) is not, I believe a newbie's best path. Solutions should
> be tailored to the problems presented.
The problem is that there are known security holes and other
problems with the old version that Apple uses as part of their
customized package, and you can't install the recent binaries on top
of the old ones and get the Apple custom management GUI with the
Either you use the Apple custom management GUI with the
Apple-modified versions of the old code, or you use the new code
(with the new features and the security fixes) with the standard
Mailman web or CLI management interface.
So, pick what is important for you -- do you want something
secure where you can get support from all our resources (including
this list), or do you want something that is easier to manage, but
for which your only support options are to pay Apple and wait for
them to get back to you at some point in the distant future?
Keep in mind that Apple is well-known for blowing off their
Server customers. They even blow off their own internal Apple
employees who would like to use Server for their applications.
One of the world's largest Mailman installations runs on MacOS X
Server machines, but they don't use the Server version of Mailman.
And they don't depend on getting support from the Server team. They
treat it as any other Linux or Unix-like OS that they support
themselves, where Mailman is installed from our source tarballs.
Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>
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