<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Travis Oliphant <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:travis@continuum.io" target="_blank">travis@continuum.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="im"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br>Exactly.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I don't<br>
feel responsible for this issue (except I maybe should have pushed<br>
more strongly about datetime being included),</blockquote><div><br>I think you left out a 'not'. I don't mean to imply that you were in anyway the blame. And you have been pretty adamant about not allowing late merges of large bits of code since then. It falls in the lessons learned category.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">but I am also not<br>
interested in making a big deal out of it, certainly not two years<br>
after the fact. I am merely point this out so that you realize that<br>
you may both have a different view that could be seen as valid<br>
depending on what you are willing to highlight.<br>
<br>
I suggest that Chuck and you take this off-list,<br></blockquote><div><br>I don't think there is much more to say, although I would suggest Travis be more careful about criticising previous work, ala 'gratuitous', 'not listening', etc. We got 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6 out without any help from him, and I think we did a pretty damn good job of working with the community and improving the code in the process.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Wow! Again, your attitude surprises me and I can't just let a public comment like that go unaddressed. Not *any* help from me. Is that really the way you view it. Amazing! No wonder people new to the project lose sight of where it came from if that's the kind of dialogue and spin you spread. </div>
<div><br></div><div>So, you are going to disregard anything I've done during that time. The personal time spent on bug fixes and code enhancements, the active discussions with people, the work on datetime, the contribution of resources, the growing of the community, the teaching, the talking, the actively trying to figure out just how to improve not only the state of the code but also how it gets written, the documentation improvements (from my early donation of my book). Just because you are not aware personally of something or I don't comment on this list, it doesn't mean I'm not active. I was not as active as I wanted to be sometimes (I do have other responsibilities), but this kind of statement is pretty hurtful as well as being completely inaccurate. </div>
<div><br></div><div>"The community" is not just people that post to this list and a few users of SciPy that you know about. "The community" is much larger than that, and I've been working with them too --- all along, even when I wasn't actively making releases. I would suggest that you be more careful about accusing who is and who isn't "helping" with things. </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>I haven't been spinning. OTOH<br><br><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i oliphant | wc -l</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">23</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i harris | wc -l</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">151</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">charris@f16 [numpy.git (master)]$ git log v1.2.1..v1.3.0 | grep -i cournapeau | wc -l</span><br style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">554</span><br><br>Chuck <br></div><br></div>