<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com" target="_blank">jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote:<br>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor<br>
</div>> <<a href="mailto:jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com">jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com">jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com</a>>><br>
<div class="">> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote:<br>
> > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are<br>
> > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases...<br>
> ><br>
> > Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've<br>
> noticed that<br>
> > a lot of the related distutils code is broken, and does not work as<br>
> > expected on at least OS X + clang.<br>
><br>
> It just spits out a lot of warnings but they are harmless.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Adding lots of warnings are not harmless as they render the compiler<br>
> warning system near useless (too many false alarms).<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>true but until now we haven't received a single complaint nor fixes so<br>
probably not many developers are actually using macs/clang to work on<br>
numpy C code.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not many people are working on numpy C code period :)</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, clang is now the standard OS X compiler since Maverick (Apple in all its wisdom made gcc an alias to clang...).</div>
<div><br></div><div>David</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
But I do agree its bad and I have fixing that on my todo list, I didn't<br>
get around to it yet.<br>
<div class=""><br>
> I will fix the checks for both distutils and bento (using the autoconf<br>
> macros setup, which should be more reliable than what we use for builtin<br>
> and __attribute__-related checks)<br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
><br>
> We could remove them by using with -Werror=attribute for the conftests<br>
> if it really bothers someone.<br>
> Or do you mean something else?<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > David<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Nathaniel Smith <<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a>><br>
</div><div class="">> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau<br>
> <<a href="mailto:cournape@gmail.com">cournape@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cournape@gmail.com">cournape@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div><div class="">> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:cournape@gmail.com">cournape@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cournape@gmail.com">cournape@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith<br>
> <<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a>><br>
</div><div class="">> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:njs@pobox.com">njs@pobox.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Maybe bento will revive and take over the new python<br>
> packaging world!<br>
> > >> Maybe not. Maybe something else will. I don't see how our<br>
> support for<br>
> > >> it will really affect these outcomes in any way. And I<br>
> especially<br>
> > >> don't see why it's important to spend time *now* on keeping<br>
> bento<br>
> > >> working, just in case it becomes useful *later*.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But it is working right now, so that argument is moot.<br>
> ><br>
> > My suggestion was that we should drop the rule that a patch has to<br>
> > keep bento working to be merged. We're talking about future<br>
> breakages<br>
> > and future effort. The fact that it's working now doesn't say<br>
> anything<br>
> > about whether it's worth continuing to invest time in it.<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Nathaniel J. Smith<br>
> > Postdoctoral researcher - Informatics - University of Edinburgh<br>
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