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<p>P.S. If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019,<br>
I will be there (on my own nickel! ;) ...<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the input Stephen, and looking forward to see you at SciPy'19!</div><div><br></div><div>Ralf</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>
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<p>On 5/2/19 9:45 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote:
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<p>I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now say
you know<br>
yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even exists
... :)<br>
Not only do I not know of that, but I know of NASA policies
that make<br>
it very difficult for NASA civil servants to contribute to
open source<br>
projects -- quite hypocritical, given the amount of open
source<br>
code that NASA (like all other large organizations) depends
critically<br>
on, but it's a fact.<br>
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<p>Cheers,<br>
Steve Waterbury<br>
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<p>(CLEARLY **NOT** SPEAKING IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY FOR NASA
OR<br>
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE! Hence the personal email<br>
address. :)<br>
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<p>On 5/2/19 9:31 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote: </p>
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<div dir="ltr">Sounds like this is a NASA specific thing, in
which case, I guess someone at NASA would need to step up.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I’m afraid I know no pythonistas at NASA. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">But I’ll poke around NOAA to see if there’s
anything similar.</div>
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On Apr 25, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Ralf Gommers <<a href="mailto:ralf.gommers@gmail.com" target="_blank">ralf.gommers@gmail.com</a>>
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Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington
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3. There's such a thing as a
share-in-savings contract at NASA, in
which <br>
you calculate a savings, such as from
avoided costs of licensing IDL or <br>
Matlab, and say you'll develop a
replacement for that product that costs <br>
less, in exchange for a portion of the
savings. These are rare and few <br>
people know about them, but one presenter
to the committee did discuss <br>
them and thought they'd be appropriate.
I've always felt that we could <br>
get a chunk of change this way, and was
surprised to find that the <br>
approach exists and has a name. About 3
of 4 people I talk to at NASA <br>
have no idea this even exists, though, and
I haven't pursued it to its <br>
logical end to see if it's viable.<br>
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<div>I've heard of these. Definitely worth
looking into.</div>
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<div>It seems to be hard to find any information
about these share-in-savings contracts. The
closest thing I found is this: <a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/06/22/2018-13463/nasa-federal-acquisition-regulation-supplement-removal-of-reference-to-the-shared-savings-policy-and" target="_blank">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/06/22/2018-13463/nasa-federal-acquisition-regulation-supplement-removal-of-reference-to-the-shared-savings-policy-and</a></div>
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<div>It is called "Shared Savings" there, and was
replaced last year by something called "Value
Engineering Change Proposal". If anyone can
comment on whether that's the same thing as Joe
meant and whether this is worth following up on,
that would be very helpful.</div>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
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<div>Ralf</div>
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