[Pydotorg-redesign] Graphic redesign

[Steve Holden]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pydotorg-redesign-bounces at python.org
> [mailto:pydotorg-redesign-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Matt Goodall
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:35 AM
> To: Aahz
> Cc: pydotorg-redesign at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Pydotorg-redesign] Graphic redesign
>
>
> Aahz wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Jul 18, 2003, Walter Dörwald wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Aahz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2003, Walter Dörwald wrote:
> >>>
> <snip>
>
> >>All pages have to be put into a hierarchical sitemap, but
> this doesn't
> >>have to do anything with directory structure.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You're technically correct, but because we've currently got
> the site in
> >CVS, moving things around is a strongly non-preferred
> option.  And given
> >that we've already got the site structure in directories, it
> seems to me
> >that whatever navigation tool we're using ought to be
> automated to use
> >that structure.
> >
>
> But surely one of the key problems with the current site is
> that it is
> not well structured? That makes it hard to navigate, especially for
> beginners - probably the key group to attract. In my opinion,
> the site
> structure has to come first. If the directory structure fits
> then that's
> great; if not then it needs mapping to the site structure by
> some other
> means.
>
> I know CVS is a complete pain for moving things around but that
> shouldn't be allowed to limit the site. If we **really**
> don't want any
> form of site -> directory structure mapping then perhaps a move to
> Subversion would be a good idea? It's got Python bindings you
> know ;-).
>
Or, heaven help us, move to some sort of dynamic content where what we
serve up comes from a database rather than static files.

I agree that we need to perform some restructuring that will make the
existing directory structure questionable at best. It would be nice if
we could avoid breaking links in the process, but that's quite a
problem: each existing page would need to be replaced by a redirect,
whether implemented as a server redirect or some other way.

We're going to have to bite that bullet one day ... and the best answer
is a complete restructuring of the still-current areas. Historical
material can be left where it is.

regards
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