[Pydotorg-redesign] Draft HTML for redesign proposal

Tim Parkin tim at pollenation.net
Fri Oct 17 12:27:18 EDT 2003


Guido:
>> The linux platform core fonts don't really provide a choice that
people
>> can have strong opinions about. Lucida on X11 is awful leaving only
>> Helvetica. Other than this, many people install extra fonts on their
>> system and, in doing so, install the windows core fonts or the
>> bitstream vera fonts. 
>I don't believe that "many people install extra fonts."  The reality
>is that if it's not on the dominant vendor's CD, it's not going to be
>on most boxes.

Just from a survey on

 http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-UnixResults.shtml

all the people I know who use unix have the windows fonts installed,
most also have the bitstream fonts. This cross section is mostly
programmers but a few designers and a couple of desktop office users
although like many 'friend surveys' will have it's own demographic tilt.

As an aside, it is intended that KDE would use Bitstream Vera range as
part of it's core standard fonts. Other distributions would include
Freetype, XFT2 and X Render extensions of the XFree86 project, Pango,
KDE and Trolltechs QT

>> The reason for the conversation was that these fonts present quite
>> diverse ranges of condensed/expanded, x-heights and densities. Arial
>> and verdana represent the extremes of both of these and are the most 
>> common fonts available to Python users (over 70% of users on Windows
>> systems, 18% on Linux and 1% on Mac).
>Are these Python stats or font availability stats?  Where did you get
>them?

These are stats for september 2003 from www.python.org/wwwstats

Tim






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