[Pydotorg-redesign] Draft HTML for redesign proposal

Tim Parkin tim at pollenation.net
Fri Oct 17 13:09:25 EDT 2003


Guido:
>> Just from a survey on
>>  http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-UnixResults.shtml
>trust me on this one.  We're geeks.  Inevitably, our friends are
>mostly geeks.  This is *not* a representative survey. :-)

Almost all my Python using friends are geeks too, proudly so. My old
boss wasn't a geek but he kept complaining that his linux pc wouldn't
show websites like his laptop did so we installed ttf windows fonts. I
would imagine a lot of Python users would be geeks too, whether or not
they'd like to be called that is a different matter :-) 

The survey I used, though flawed, does seem to be good enough to show
general trends and does reflect the experience of myself and that of a
few of my colleagues. Some environments have strict guidelines on
platform setup (we weren't allowed to install new fonts at a dot com I
worked for, explaining I was designing for a client who wouldn't like us
to change there logo finally got round that one). 

>> >Are these Python stats or font availability stats?  Where did you
get
>> >them?
>>
>> These are stats for september 2003 from www.python.org/wwwstats
>
>I was afraid so.  That's 70% Windows *downloads*, not *users*.  Since
>Python is pre-installed on *all* Linux distros (not just Red Hat :-),
>Linux users don't have to download anythign in order to use Python.
>(The same will be true for Mac OS X Panther, but that's not out yet.)

The stats I picked of the site weren't for downloads, they were for
general browsing. I was presuming that this would be the best source of
information about what the balance of browser/operating system support
for the new site would be. I'd love to know if there are any other stats
available, actually that raises a question I was going to ask a while
back. Can I get access to the raw 'combined' logs for the python server.
I know they'd be huge but I've got some excellent data mining software
that I could use to get some good information on usage.

I think the conversation about fonts was pretty much over anyway, any
further feedback was coming directly back to me, the last post was just
a summary of findings. We could always move back to logos and straplines
;-)

Tim






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