[pypy-dev] Moving the project forward
jnoller at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 02:37:05 CEST 2011
Yes, I should have looped Noah in sooner.
I have all the keys / passwords. Right now we need:
2. benchmark runners
I've installed a very basic system with Django, apache, mod_wsgi
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've gotten Noah Kantrowitz on here, he's doing some other infrastructure
> stuff for the PSF, and would like to include speed.python.org in the proper
> organization of the machines, rather than ad-hoc "everyone installs what
> they think it needs" :)
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> (Re-sending intentionally - I wasn't subbed to pypy-dev and got rejected)
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jesse Noller <jnoller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Here's a summary (nicely put together by Nick Coghlan):
>> > - OSU/OSL have set up the machine itself (details in the July list
>> > archives)
>> > - I am the machine admin (I have root)
>> > - Tennessee and Miquel are working on getting codespeed up and running
>> > - I and Maciej are already too busy to handle the coordination/admin
>> > side of things
>> > I just added the "speedracer" account - a common account to setup
>> > things as needed. Currently, I don't see activity from Miquel on
>> > setting up the codespeed instance. I know Tennessee has been looking
>> > at setting up the runner.
>> > What we need is this, very simply:
>> > 1 - A working, running codespeed instance installed
>> > 2 - Benchmark runner(s) setup and going - for PyPy and CPython 2.x
>> > since the benchmarks don't run on Python 3 yet.
>> > Other needs/notes:
>> > - a project issue tracker doesn't appear to exist yet (needs to be done)
>> > - a better 'placeholder/about' page would be useful that offered links
>> > to:
>> > - the speed at python.org mailing list signup page
>> > - the issue tracker (once it exists)
>> > - the codespeed repo
>> > Ideally, the front landing page would end up looking like:
>> > http://speed.pypy.org/
>> > - the aim is to eventually have the web front end running on different
>> > (but still OSU/OSL hosted) hardware, although that likely isn't
>> > critical right now
>> > - the current 5 GB /tmp size may be a problem for PyPy
>> > Where do we go from here - I can not be the one to keep pestering the
>> > group to make forward progress. On behalf of the PSF, and the CPython
>> > and PyPy teams, I got us a donated platform for running these shared,
>> > common benchmarks. Right now we have a 10,000$+ paper weight taking
>> > rack space in OSU/OSL.
>> > I need someone to take lead on this and get the project moving forward
>> > - as a reminder, here was the original proposal I made to the board,
>> > after PyCon 2011:
>> > """
>> > Coming out of the PyCon VM and language summits, it was commonly
>> > agreed that PyPy, CPython, IronPython and Jython should strive to move
>> > to a common set of benchmarks and a single performance-oriented site.
>> > This was agreed upon by the maintainers present at the conference, and
>> > included leads from all of the major implementations. This project
>> > would be lead by the various VM development teams, and based around
>> > the Unladen Swallow/PyPy benchmark suite. The site would be derived
>> > from:
>> > http://speed.pypy.org/
>> > There are already GSOC students potentially lined up to work on
>> > porting the test suite to Python 3!
>> > There, of course, is the requirement that we have:
>> > 1> A machine
>> > 2> Hosting for that machine
>> > And I took the job of finding both. As the OSU/OSL  has come up
>> > several times in discussions about free, monitored hosting, I felt
>> > that now would be the time to float the trial balloon and start a
>> > continuing relationship with the OSU/OSL team. I got to speak with
>> > some of the team at PyCon, and I was quite impressed with their
>> > enthusiasm and willingness to help out.
>> > """
>> > I need help from everyone to get this up and running: the PyPy team is
>> > most familiar with the speed.pypy.org/codespeed system. If we could
>> > get a dump of what needs to be done to get things setup, that may help
>> > get more hands involved.
>> > I am feeling personally responsible that this has not been moving
>> > forward - I need your help to get this up and running for the
>> > betterment of CPython and PyPy. This project benefits both projects,
>> > and Python in general immensely.
>> > Once up and running, this system will be prominently placed on the
>> > Python.org home page, and be used by potential users to help select
>> > and evaluate their Python runtime.
>> > Jesse
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