<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/12/18 Sunny Kansara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunnyk@packtpub.com">sunnyk@packtpub.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<i>Hi Everyone,<br>
<br>
I see a lot of questions been raised by authors before taking up a
writing project. We have a crystal clear working style at Packt and we
have made our royalty public as well which means we do not negotiate it
and we do not hesitate to say it on public platforms.<br>
<br>
16% royalty is given to authors on the net revenue generated from that
book. <br></i></div></blockquote><div><br><br>What do you mean by "net revenue"? When I wrote IronPython in Action for Manning the royalty was 10% of *gross revenue* to Manning (so 10% of what they made from each sale - which is not the same amount as book sellers sold it to the end customer). It seems to me that 16% of net may be a lot less than 10% of gross depending on how it is calculated...<br>
<br>All the best,<br><br>Michael Foord<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><i>
<br>
We have a complete team of editors, production and marketing people
which means author get full support from Packt from beginning to end.
We do not ask them to go and come back when the book is ready.
The sale of the books is as important to Packt as it is to the author.<div class="im"><br>
<br>
To give you an idea about the way things works at Packt: <br>
<br>
- The editorial team at Packt works with the author through out the
project. <br>
- We pay a royalty of 16% and an advance against it. <br>
- The marketing team at Packt ensures that the book is well promoted. <br>
- In its ongoing commitment to OpenSource, Packt donates a percentage
of revenue generated by the book to the OpenSource project on which it
is based. We have donated more than 100 000 dollars to various
OpenSource projects since inception in 2004.<br>
<br></div>
If anybody is interested in writing or has further questions then
please contact me directly and I will be happy to discuss them.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Sunny <a href="mailto:sunnyk@packtpub.com" target="_blank"><sunnyk@packtpub.com></a></i><br>
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<b>Sunny Kansara</b> <br>
Author Relationship Executive <br>
Packt Publishing <br>
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<br>
Skype: sunnyk <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone,
<br>
<br>
First, full disclosure: I'm an Editor with O'Reilly.
<br>
<br>
I just wanted to contribute the note that when a publisher states its
royalty rate as a percentage, you need to ask: "of what?" Some
publishers calculate royalties as a percentage of profit rather than of
net revenue, or their definitions of "net revenue" may vary. So just
looking at one publisher's percentage vs. another is usually a
comparison of apples to oranges anyway.
<br>
<br>
Then there's the matter of how many copies they expect to sell. Some
publishers sign books only if they expect the book to do well and make
a profit; others are willing to take a hit on some niche books and
expect to make up that revenue with a few blockbusters -- which is all
well and good, unless you're the author of one of the niche books that
never earns out its advance. (The silver lining here is that this is
how books on niche topics are made available to those that want them;
if you're considering writing on such a topic and are primarily
concerned with publicizing your content or growing your community, then
this could be the way to go. Just be aware that you might not make any
money doing it.)
<br>
<br>
These are all good things to ask a publisher you're considering working
with (as well as questions Wesley indicates, such as what the tech
review and editing process will be like, and who is responsible for
that: some publishers ask authors to handle their own tech review).
<br>
<br>
It's always good to know what you're getting yourself into, no matter
whom you're considering working with.
<br>
<br>
Happy writing,
<br>
Julie
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: "wesley chun" <a href="mailto:wescpy@gmail.com" target="_blank"><wescpy@gmail.com></a>
<br>
To: <a href="mailto:python-authors@python.org" target="_blank">python-authors@python.org</a>
<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:23:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
<br>
Subject: Re: [Python-authors] Author Python Book - Packt Publishing
<br>
<br>
this is a warning to all before jumping in without looking at the
<br>
waters first. i haven't worked with them before, but based on the
<br>
existing review of their Python books, i would be somewhat hesitant,
<br>
and i certainly wouldn't approach them without an agent. (i'm also not
<br>
sure of their marketing and PR... i doubt they have the same type of
<br>
staff as a more well-known publisher like Pearson [Prentice Hall,
<br>
Addison Wesley] or O'Reilly.)
<br>
<br>
the royalties they're offering seem abnormally high, and even scarier
<br>
is that they tell you over email when this is typically something
<br>
that's negotiated. the standard royalty rate is 10%, as O'Reilly
<br>
states publically:
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/oreilly/oreilly/author/ch03.html" target="_blank">http://www.oreillynet.com/oreilly/oreilly/author/ch03.html</a>
<br>
<br>
i'm concerned that they offer a higher rate because they spend less
<br>
elsewhere, such as editing. read Alex Martelli's review very carefully
<br>
as well as others' here:
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/184719494X" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/184719494X</a>
<br>
<br>
he is doing both the Python community *and* authors at-large a huge
<br>
favor by exposing this type of publisher behavior in the hopes that
<br>
anyone would jump at this project because they: 1) want to be
<br>
published, and 2) want higher royalties. as long as they sell enough
<br>
to cover their minimal costs. it is also strongly likely that the
<br>
editing, if there is any, is outsourced.
<br>
<br>
here's another one (check out the "most helpful review"):
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1904811841" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/dp/1904811841</a>
<br>
<br>
anyway, i'm not telling you guys *not* to do it, but just be careful,
<br>
and have good English writing skills because likely, it won't be
<br>
edited much so you should be prepared to be practically camera-ready.
<br>
<br>
cheers,
<br>
-wesley
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Sunny Kansara
<a href="mailto:sunnyk@packtpub.com" target="_blank"><sunnyk@packtpub.com></a> wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi All,
<br>
<br>
I represent Packt Publishing, the publishers of computer related books.
<br>
<br>
We are planning to publish a new book on wxPython which will teach the
<br>
Python developers who want to quickly use wxPython to create programs
with
<br>
high functional GUI's and currently we are looking out for some
potential
<br>
authors to write this book.
<br>
<br>
We pay a royalty of 16% and an advance against it.
<br>
<br>
An ideal candidate to author this book will be someone with an
experience in
<br>
wxPython. He/She should be able to communicate his/her thoughts clearly
in
<br>
English. Past writing experience will be an advantage though not
mandatory.
<br>
<br>
If you are interested in authoring this book, please write to me with a
<br>
brief information about your experience with wxPython and any past
writing
<br>
experience you may have..
<br>
<br>
Thanks,
<br>
Sunny.
<br>
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Sunny Kansara
<br>
Author Relationship Executive
<br>
Packt Publishing
<br>
<a href="http://www.PacktPub.com" target="_blank">www.PacktPub.com</a>
<br>
Skype: sunnyk
<br>
MSN: <a href="mailto:sunny_packt@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunny_packt@hotmail.com</a>
<br>
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