No, I never got on Skype with Anatoly. I did write a very frank email and got the usual response. I don't think I am up to doing anything more about him. He doesn't bother me that much, I ignore most of his threads. He is a reviewer and committer on Rietveld and behaves better there.<div>
<br></div><div>--Guido<span></span><br><br>On Wednesday, December 26, 2012, Brian Curtin wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Ezio Melotti <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ezio.melotti@gmail.com')">ezio.melotti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That said, ISTM that the main problem is that the way he communicates is not<br>
> really effective and that results in an "energy drain" for other people.<br>
> This can be addressed on both the sides.<br>
> The community should ignore the tone of the messages or even the messages<br>
> themselves and most importantly avoid replies that convey the same negative<br>
> feelings.<br>
<br>
I've filtered his emails to the trash for almost two years now, but<br>
I'm not going to ignore that he's now discouraging my friends and<br>
colleagues from contribution. I already removed myself from the nosy<br>
list on a bunch of issues he created in the past, and the people who<br>
were willing to work with him are dropping off. I also will not ignore<br>
his tone about a GSoC contribution being useless.<br>
<br>
> People should be able to recognize when a discussion is not<br>
> constructive anymore and leave it, rather than wasting time just to prove a<br>
> point or to repeat themselves. (Note that this apply to everyone, and not<br>
> to anatoly in particular).<br>
> Regarding the effectiveness of the communications there's certainty room for<br>
> improvement, but apparently the previous attempts to address the problem<br>
> were unsuccessful. I'm willing to make an attempt myself, as I think I have<br>
> a quite clear idea of the problem.<br>
<br>
You're wasting your time if you think you will be the one to break<br>
through to him after several people have already talked to him.<br>
Apparently he even got on Skype with Guido about this. People would<br>
*pay* to have that chance. Anatoly got it for being a jerk and it<br>
changed nothing.<br>
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